Base Vegito vs Ultimate Gohan&SSJ3 Gotenks.

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Base Vegito vs Ultimate Gohan&SSJ3 Gotenks.

Topic Started: Dec 15 2011, 03:48 PM (1,155 Views)

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Dec 15 2011, 03:48 PM Post #1

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Jan 2 2012, 05:37 PM Post #2

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Vegito roflstomps.

Edited by jusjg1, Jan 2 2012, 05:37 PM.

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he does, and i think gohan by himself is taking out gotenks pretty easy, it was buutenks that stopped gohan.

otherwise ....

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Jan 3 2012, 11:26 AM Post #4

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Vegito in base form was implemented to be strong enough to take Buutenks down so he'd probably take out Gotenks and Gohan easily.

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In the manga SSjin is made out to be overkill with constant comments from Vegetto about him expecting more of a challenge etc;

“What’s the matter? You’ve gone mute…Anyway, this isn’t remotely fun. I wish you’d fight seriously…Or were you serious, and this was how you ended up? In that case, I shouldn’t have said that. My apologizes.”

“Look, look! What’s the matter!? My legs alone are more than enough to deal with the likes of you!”

Then also Elder Kaioshin makes this comment;

“Idiot, it’s because it was those two that they were able to go so far. Two of the top 3 masters in both the living world and afterlife have merged, after all. What’s more, two rivals have joined together. That’s definitely strongest.”

IMO that is a direct Vegetto>'Gokan' statement as if Vegetto was the strongest possible fusion.

SO base Gokan>>Gotenks-Boo. So imo base Vegetto, at the very least, has to be in the same realm of power as Gohan-Boo.

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I would say Vegito would be able to beat Buutenks but he definitely needs SSJ to make sure he beats Buuhan IMO,he transformed immediately so that alone can imply that Vegito was unsure if hencould beat Buuhan in base

Buuhan>Base Vegito>Buutenks

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But he himself didn't expect Gohan-Boo to be completely helpless suggesting he transformed into an SSjin because he was overly cautious.

Hell for all we know he could have made Vegetto fight Gohan-Boo as an SSjin out of wanting to cut down drawing time.

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Or you could simply put it this way,

Vegito wanted to lay back,relax and wanted to just open a can of whoop assing in his SSJ form.He was using his feet,he probably knew he could've beaten Buuhan in base form if he tried but he just wanted to humiliate Buu even more,that's just my take though bro.

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You 2 above pretty much covered the manga.

In the anime though it would be a joke, since the anime is where Base Vegito was shown heavily using his powers. Simple joke because Goku and Vegeta as SSJs owned Ultimate Gohan and SSJ3 Gotenks. That would be an embarrassing fight for the boys

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Vegitto going ssj was just letting buu know that there was NO hope whatsoever. Buu got the picture.

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Jan 4 2012, 03:29 AM Post #11

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not sure how powerful I have Vegito yet.

I'd have someone as irrelevant as Gotenks, as:

SSJ2 Vegeta (Majin) <<< Gotenks (Initial) |50|<<< SSJ Gotenks (Initial)

So that'd be a bare minimum, imo; Vegito is much greater than someone who's much greater than Majin Vegeta...

No other indicator of his strength, but I haven't really even looked into Buu Saga yet.

Edited by Kruegs Outlandish, Jan 4 2012, 05:20 AM.

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which gotenks? cause

gotenks (post rosat) base>ssj-pre
both goku and vegeta fell behind gotenks after the rosat training. Not sure which session but since they were in there so long? id say they got it down pretty good.

Heres MO- vegito>>buuhan>buutenks>=ultimate gohan>gotenks ssj3(post)>=super evil buuicolo>super evil buu base>ssj3goku>kid buu>pure evil buu>=fat buu- he stole buus power and then ate him.>ssj2goku>=majin vegeta (sorry i dont know the other sign signaling a balance that an teeter totter. But you know what i mean.
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Jan 4 2012, 05:18 AM Post #13

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initial = pre

and since I'm using 50x, any RST Gotenks guesses from me probably won't be near his previous SSJ state.

imo, SSJ Gotenks, before RST, is well over 12x stronger than SSJ3 Goku (SEG, SSJ3 = 4x SSJ2)

SSJ3 Goku |12|<<< SSJ Gotenks (Initial)

minimal power (SSJ2 Vegeta = 1000, SEG)	fighter
1000	SSJ2 Vegeta (Majin)
4000	SSJ3 Goku
1210	Gotenks (Initial)
>>> 60500	SSJ1 Gotenks (Initial)
1465	Gotenks (RST)
>>> 73205	SSJ1 Gotenks (RST)
>>> 585640	SSJ3 Gotenks (RST)

Edited by Kruegs Outlandish, Jan 4 2012, 05:21 AM.

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huh, so seg multipliers have 50x a transformation?

is that a necessary multiplier for the fusion as well? or are you figuring in a rival factor also?

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Jan 4 2012, 11:15 AM Post #15

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Jan 4 2012, 05:27 AM
huh, so seg multipliers have 50x a transformation?

is that a necessary multiplier for the fusion as well? or are you figuring in a rival factor also?

Nothing suggests that SSJ is set multiplier,it toes down as the base form gets stronger,Ultimate Gohan is a good example of sayians reaching mAximum status at the present time without needing SSJ,cause SSJ simply wouldn't make a difference in power but just change the hair and eye color lol.

But in all honesty,nothing suggests fusion transformation boosts are different from regular 1 people transformation boosts.So to think other wise is just digging your own grave,and you would have to prove the burden that now rests on your shoulders lol.

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