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Mecha Freiza vs Cooler
Topic Started: Dec 14 2011, 05:03 AM (711 Views)
Jamason
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Cooler was stronger then Freiza.. He stated not by that much but still. And Freiza got a powerboost from his reconsstruction.
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Cooler never said that. He said he was stronger than Freeza, and so did Goku, but never specified how much. Considering Goku got a lot stronger according to Roshi, then Cooler would most definitely whoop Freeza.
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Balthazor
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I would beat them both very easily,but cooler wins this fairly easily.
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Mecha Freeza is only a little stronger than Goku Namek.

I think Cooler is probably somewhere around Trunks. Not a huge lead but enough to win.
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CatouttaHell
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Coola rips his brother apart.
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COH how do you feel these compare

Goku M5 , Goku Namek , Yardrat Goku

Do you think Goku M5 is above Yardrat?
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CatouttaHell
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I haven't made a Movie 5 BPs list in ages so I don't really know.

I'm stuck between your POV of Coola being "even stronger" than Freeza and the POV of:

Final Form Coola - 400,000,000
Kaio-ken x20 Son Goku - 260,000,000
Coola - 120,000,000
Invisible Kaio-ken x10 Son Goku - 130,000,000
Base Son Goku - 13,000,000
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Well I don't use invisible Kaioken anymore.

I think Base Cooler is probably suggested to be around the 5 million range or somewhere around that, and his transformation is probably the equivilant of Freeza going 100%.

Base Cooler being like a stronger Initial True Form Freeza is def implied by the movie...

But, this is prior to King Cold and his immense power showing up...

Forcing us to disregard the Cooler's feats, as it would be stupid for Cooler to be so much weaker than King Cold.


So you gotta go beyond TOEI here, just like how sometimes we go beyond AT. It's just they didn't have good enough info...

Even stronger than Freeza doesn't have to mean the gap is exactly tiny, it can be suggested that way though. I don't think it implies a 100x gap though thats for sure...


In the end, non canon material sealed the deal for me...



M7 = Androids Saga > M6 > M5 and M5 is probably around the same powers as the Yardrat...


I think if you doing a completely correlating list, that is a good avenue to go down...
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Even stronger doesn't have to mean a small gap. Kuririn said SSjinG2 Vegeta was "even stronger" than Initial Second Form Cell and that was an astronomical gap considering SSjin Trunks > FP Second Cell...

I think that definitely makes sense, I just really don't like the idea of Base Coola being so insanely low personally.

I think the POV that Base Freeza = 50% Freeza and that 100% Freeza is his equivalent of Fifth Form Coola is a nice POV.
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Oh agreed, that's why I said go beyond TOEI and make Base Cooler around King Cold or stronger anyhow...

You going to start that thread on Pojo on what man?

Just start it simply...

DB Saga

Goku W/ Tail
Goku W/o Tail
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CatouttaHell
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Sorry I'll get to that now. I'm posting on like three forums at once right now non-stop so I'm getting a bit lagged.
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And I agree, there's no definitive statement for Even stronger. Although there may have been more emphasis on Even, like this he's EVEN stronger than Freeza, or was it EVEN STRONGER?

I don't know, probably looking too much into it...

I'm cool with Cooler > Mecha though, although, like I mentioned before, the Androids Saga and correlating movies impose limits on how much so ...

But Cooler 200
Mecha 160

Going by Daiz numbers, sounds pretty good to me.. Goku Yardrat and M5 being say 300 million. Sound good?
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CatouttaHell
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I don't remember any emphasis being placed on any of the words.

I agree that's pretty good. I'd personally place M5 above Yardrat since he was stated to have kept training on Earth but to each their own.
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So why is that a reason for M5 > Yardrat?

As long as you leave enough room for M6 to be well ahead of M5 and still well below M7 I think that's good...
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Yardrat is Son Goku right after he returned to Earth. Movie 5 is Son Goku after having returned to Earth and trained for a while.
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