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Dec 10 2011, 06:58 PM Post #16 |
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Its not like a big problem to get a new IP address,but I bet he will just make another name like "The Chosen Fighter" and get a ban again anyway,Janemba stomps Edited by DarkCore, Dec 10 2011, 06:58 PM.
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| Jamason | Dec 10 2011, 07:00 PM Post #17 |
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If thats the case then Gotenks would have the same strength as well.. Meaning he would have destroyed Vegeta. Plus since this was filler, it never even happened.. It wouldnt make sense if they had put goku at SSJ againts mystic Gohan and Goku win. Gohan would pound him into the dust. Same with Vegeta and Gotenks. |
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| + Clearin | Dec 10 2011, 07:05 PM Post #18 |
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I know it didn't happen. But I was replying to someone who said that Goku is only stronger than Gohan in movie 13 even though he's stronger in the Anime too. Besides as Janemba is an anime villain it makes sense to use Anime powers, so I gave both a canon and anime answer. |
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Dec 10 2011, 08:27 PM Post #19 |
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Youre FIGURING that goku is stronger, you dont have any real proof that it happened, goku may have fought gohan inside of buu, but buu was also using gohans strength OVER gotenks, who had promptly de fused. Goku may be USED to fighting gohan and despite his strength can stave him off, but power for power? it aint happening, not feasible. |
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| + Clearin | Dec 10 2011, 08:36 PM Post #20 |
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Yes I do. There is a filler scene inside Buu where Super Saiyan Goku fights Ultimate Gohan's ghost thingy and has the upperhand. Both Goku and I'm pretty sure a guide book state that this ghost has the same power as the real Gohan. This can only mean Super Saiyan Goku is stronger than Gohan in the anime. |
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| + Pyrus | Dec 10 2011, 11:46 PM Post #21 |
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Being used to someone means you can shrug them off no matter how powerful they are? That's a load of bull. The filler just doesn't make sense. No need to make up stuff like that. Ghost Gohan was as powerful as the real one, stated by Goku and D7. SSjin Goku beat him, so at that point in the anime, SSjin Goku > Ultimate Gohan. Then it's contradicted later on when Goku gets slapped around by normal Evil Boo, and then that's contradicted by statements of Pure Boo being the strongest villain ever. Toei was messing up big time here. |
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Dec 11 2011, 04:47 AM Post #22 |
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uhh yeah KP, its called technique, and im sure goku has enough technique to stave off a more powerful physical blow. Humans in real life do it too, even made a few martial arts styles about the concepts, you should catch up... |
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| + Pyrus | Dec 11 2011, 07:16 AM Post #23 |
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Why didn't he do consider it for Evil Boo then? Or any of the other villains he never faced? |
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Dec 11 2011, 12:49 PM Post #24 |
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when u are fighting an invulnerable being of pure magic? fighting period is kinda moot. he did use his superior technique, against a cell 2 x times stronger than he was, and cell was fully suppressed. Goku fought him off easy with undefeated precision techniques, he even DEFEATED cell if you want to get technical. |
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| + Pyrus | Dec 11 2011, 06:51 PM Post #25 |
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I don't see how invulnerability to magic makes fighting moot. Then every fight including Boo was kind of pointless and I don't know why Toriyama drew them up. You're just bouncing around the fact that the anime makes no sense. What fight were you watching? Cell was stated and shown to be a step ahead of Goku the entire fight. |
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Dec 11 2011, 09:06 PM Post #26 |
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Not when cell actually lowered himself to gokus level, cell admitted that goku was better technically, then goku tried to blow him into pieces. Invulnerable to magic? where did you get that? i said majin buu is MADE from magic, what magical creature do YOU know can be killed by normal means? especially one made from pure magical energy? physical hand to hand meant NOTHING, it was all power blasts and who had more stamina in the end. Gokus universal spirit bomb proving my point. |
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| + Pyrus | Dec 11 2011, 09:12 PM Post #27 |
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Quote please. I've never seen that admittance.
Then why did Gotenks, Gohan, and Vegetto all fight Boo with hand-to-hand techniques? Why didn't they just blast him to pieces? Clearly hand-to-hand made a difference. It's a fighting manga. ![]() Goku was stronger than Gohan in the anime. It's stated and shown numerous times. Goku getting back up from a direct punch from Gohan proves he was at least on Gohan's level. You can't shrug off a punch if you're as weak as you're claiming Goku to be. Edited by Pyrus, Dec 11 2011, 09:12 PM.
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Dec 11 2011, 10:55 PM Post #28 |
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LOL, weak? no sir, you just seem to not understand how a person with more power and or size can be then down by someone smaller and weaker. Power is all those characters you just named have. In the anime and im sure the manga, cell told goku his technique was superb, but he didnt have the power to back it up. watching vid now....everyone including cell keeps saying they are fighting on almost equal terms at max power, i hate english dubs. so goku is as strong as mystic gohan in the anime, and yet he couldnt fight super buu by himself? him fighting a pretend gohan and making a statement that could be off, is gonna take precedence over what happened between them physically? cmon now. |
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Dec 12 2011, 12:30 AM Post #29 |
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cell said it in his own way, i cant quote him verbatim, but he acknowledged goku as the only fighter who could challenge him. Goku ran out of power, cell wasnt any steps ahead except for hiding his power.
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| Kblo247 | Dec 12 2011, 12:53 AM Post #30 |
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Vegeta basically said the two fools together were tough but he took them. He made no mention of them being weak, just like Goku said the Manifestation was as string as Gohan. In fact iirc Vegeta wondered why the boys even powered up and fused inside Buu, so they were implied to be just as strong as the normal ones. You just have to remember that Old Kai in the anime refers to Goku and Vegeta as the two greatest warriors in the universe, not Gohan. They were to make a complete fusion because they were the two greatest warriors in the universe and rivals which made the new being complete, whereas KabitoKai inthe anime was told to sit his ***** down as he would be no help to them. Edited by Kblo247, Dec 12 2011, 12:55 AM.
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