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Saiyans vs Namekians
Topic Started: Dec 8 2011, 12:55 AM (11,986 Views)
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All out War. No Super Saiyans or Super Nameks allowed. Who wins?
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If you are talking about BoZ Nameks vs Saiyans, then Im pretty sure the Saiyans stomp.

I mean wasn't Nail considered one of the strongest Namekians and he was at 42,000. An oozaru Vegeta would smash him.
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but the namekians knew about the saiyans. Nail would just cut off vegeta's tail. nail solos all the saiyans.
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Saiyan Elite[1 500, 2 500]
Namekian Warriors3 000
Nappa4 000
Bardock10 000
King Vegeta12 000
Vegeta (at Recoome)~30 000
Turles~30 000
Nail42 000
Piccolo[51 000, 438 000]

Post Kaio Piccolo aside. Nail is MVP. Nail becomes King of Saiyans, and teaches them the old ways of Namek...

unless you add Goku.

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Goku90 000
Kaio-ken x 10900 000

Goku stomps and then eats.
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What point in time are these guys from? Lots of possibilities.
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The only point in time that can be done is before the saiyan saga because there were still saiyans left(excluding nappa, raditz, goku, and vegeta obviously) The most powerful saiyan is vegeta 18,000 and the most powerful namekian is nail 42,000. However, all saiyans can become oozaru so vegeta's true power is 180,000. IMO, saiyans take this one
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I wish we knew more about Nail's background. How long was he at his 42k battle power? How did he achieve it? Things like that would've been nice to know.
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lunar2
Dec 8 2011, 03:37 AM
but the namekians knew about the saiyans. Nail would just cut off vegeta's tail. nail solos all the saiyans.
True didn't think of that, I guess Nail stomps.
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but the namekians knew about the saiyans. Nail would just cut off vegeta's tail. nail solos all the saiyans.
True didn't think of that, I guess Nail stomps.
Vegeta's tail was chopped off the first time because he was unaware that Yajirobe was even on the battlefield. He would be nowhere near that careless when fighting Nail
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but nail is more powerful than even kkx5 goku, without the strain of high multiplier kaioken. plus, he can always fuse with guru to get even more powerful. saiyans don't stand a chance.
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nail seems to throw this topic off a bit. how about this? an army of typical saiyan warriors (ranging from raditz to bardock power level) vs an army of typical namekian warriors.
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this topic is pretty fixed regardless.

typical saiyan warriors are around raditz to maybe 2 500.

namekian warriors impressed frieza and the henchmen at 3 000. they take typical warriors.

the saiyans that led to the destruction of the race were those that were sent to mission and had experienced some types of zenkai; they probably became hurt badly enough and then abused Oozaru to escape near-death.

they are most likely few in number, [4 000, 6 000] they and any other higher level saiyans (Bardock, King Vegeta, Young Prince Vegeta) defeat what remains of the Namekian race hands-down.

Nail is pretty much what keeps them in check.

Oozaru on Namek are nigh impossible; there are three suns, but anywhere else, they would out power the remaining Nameks. Nail would be able to deal with all, but the rational and/or high power Oozaru.

Pre Namekian Cataclysm , the Namekian would stomp. Nail would have probably been a standard warrior class, while Guru would have gone beast mode and ate every Saiyan in his way. ONE SWALLOW.
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Dec 8 2011, 09:36 PM
this topic is pretty fixed regardless.

typical saiyan warriors are around raditz to maybe 2 500.

namekian warriors impressed frieza and the henchmen at 3 000. they take typical warriors.

the saiyans that led to the destruction of the race were those that were sent to mission and had experienced some types of zenkai; they probably became hurt badly enough and then abused Oozaru to escape near-death.

they are most likely few in number, [4 000, 6 000] they and any other higher level saiyans (Bardock, King Vegeta, Young Prince Vegeta) defeat what remains of the Namekian race hands-down.

Nail is pretty much what keeps them in check.

Oozaru on Namek are nigh impossible; there are three suns, but anywhere else, they would out power the remaining Nameks. Nail would be able to deal with all, but the rational and/or high power Oozaru.

Pre Namekian Cataclysm , the Namekian would stomp. Nail would have probably been a standard warrior class, while Guru would have gone beast mode and ate every Saiyan in his way. ONE SWALLOW.
I agree with everything except two things.
First, Oozarus on Namek ARE possible. Vegeta became one on earth without the aid of the moon
Second, We don't know if Nail was less powerful than the nameks of old and his power is certainly less than that of the elite saiyans( Vegeta, King Vegeta, and Bardock(terms of power not class)) in oozaru form
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but power isn't everything. goku was already burnt out from multiple kaioken uses, and yet vegeta was still within the same league of speed as him. oozaru vegeta may be faster than regular vegeta, but he's definitely not as fast as his power would suggest. nail, on the other hand, is as fast as his power would suggest, and so should be able to stomp on the sluggish oozarus. plus, the artificial moon is a very draining technique. even vegeta struggled with it. I doubt very many saiyans can pull it off, and even fewer actually know it. and besides, since very few saiyans can actually control their oozaru forms, they are still at a marked disadvantage. i just don't see the namekians losing this fight.
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Yeah,there is no way too see namekians losing to 100s of giant monkeys

Only namekian that could do anything is Nail,but he'd be easily beaten by oozaru elites
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