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Mother Teresa
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Seruphim	Dec 5 2011, 03:59 AM Post #1
Cell's Angel Posts: 3,242 Group: Goddess Member #867 Joined: November 15, 2005 Country United States Favourite Anime DBZ What Browser do you use? Chrome	A lot of people, and I was one such person beforehand, viewed Mother Teresa as a a sort of.. beacon of light, I suppose. Someone who took care of the poor and set up homes for them and just generally did good. She's like a saint to some people. But ever since I started questioning things I found new information about her that I was honestly surprised to find. I wanted to share this information with everyone and just see what people think and their views on Mother Teresa and her deeds. I'll quote some of the sources and you can check them out further yourself if you'd like. An account from a sister who worked with Mother Teresa: Quote: Three of Mother Teresa's teachings that are fundamental to her religious congregation are all the more dangerous because they are believed so sincerely by her sisters. Most basic is the belief that as long as a sister obeys she is doing God's will. Another is the belief that the sisters have leverage over God by choosing to suffer. Their suffering makes God very happy. He then dispenses more graces to humanity. The third is the belief that any attachment to human beings, even the poor being served, supposedly interferes with love of God and must be vigilantly avoided or immediately uprooted. The efforts to prevent any attachments cause continual chaos and confusion, movement and change in the congregation. Mother Teresa did not invent these beliefs - they were prevalent in religious congregations before Vatican II - but she did everything in her power (which was great) to enforce them. http://www.hvk.org/articles/0607/58.html Article: Shattering the Myth of Mother Teresa Quote: Teresa's free clinics provided care that was at best rudimentary and haphazard and at worst unsanitary and dangerous, despite the enormous amounts of donations she received. Multiple volunteers at Teresa's clinics, such as Mary Loudon and Susan Shields, have testified to the inadequate care provided to the dying. Despite routinely receiving millions of dollars in donations, Teresa deliberately kept her clinics barren and austere, lacking all but the most rudimentary and haphazard care. Quote: On another occasion, Teresa told a terminal cancer patient, who was dying in extreme pain, that he should consider himself fortunate: "You are suffering like Christ on the cross. So Jesus must be kissing you." http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/05/mother-teresa.html Other sources: http://hittingbedrock.blogspot.com/2007/09/mother-teresa-and-money.html http://voices.yahoo.com/mother-teresa-not-as-good-as-think-she-is-366750.html there's loads of this stuff out there, really. I'm not looking to step on any toes here, I just find all this information very surprising given that most people have this view that she is a saint. What do yall think?



~~Destiny~~	Dec 5 2011, 04:13 AM Post #2
Posts: 7,206 Group: GTFO Member #5,331 Joined: October 16, 2010	I don't think we're to judge really. Most other people who are considered saints had done immoral things in their life(Ghandi, MLK, etc) Hell even Hitler did "good" things and that's really stretching it. We remember them how they wanted to be remembered as Good/Bad people. Though I have to say most of this is new to me. Then again I hardly ever looked into nor did I know much of Mother Teresa.



~~Doggo Champion 2k17~~	Dec 5 2011, 04:28 AM Post #3
Posts: 7,931 Group: GTFO Member #6,380 Joined: June 20, 2011 Country United States Favourite Anime here comes What Browser do you use? o shit waddup! Favourite Manga dat boi	I don't think that any of those "quotes" were really all that bad. The times were different then. You have to remember that women were viewed much differently back then, and even saints were required to live a certain way. Also, people acted differently. I'm not saying this constitutes everything that happened (if these sources are indeed true), but it's a reasonable enough explanation for me. Either way, everyone has their flaws.



Seruphim	Dec 5 2011, 04:31 AM Post #4
Cell's Angel Posts: 3,242 Group: Goddess Member #867 Joined: November 15, 2005 Country United States Favourite Anime DBZ What Browser do you use? Chrome	I think it's a lot more than 'it was a different time' or 'women were treated differently' this is about a woman who was suppose to give care to people, had a large amount of donations to make it happen, but felt that that it was better for her 'patients' to live in squalor rather than actually help them and simply told them that it was good to suffer because Christ did so. She had the capabilities to help these people and didn't.



~~Doggo Champion 2k17~~	Dec 5 2011, 04:46 AM Post #5
Posts: 7,931 Group: GTFO Member #6,380 Joined: June 20, 2011 Country United States Favourite Anime here comes What Browser do you use? o shit waddup! Favourite Manga dat boi	I don't think she was really telling the people to "suffer," but I suppose that's just my take on what I read. :P



Seruphim	Dec 5 2011, 04:54 AM Post #6
Cell's Angel Posts: 3,242 Group: Goddess Member #867 Joined: November 15, 2005 Country United States Favourite Anime DBZ What Browser do you use? Chrome	She didn't tell people to suffer. I'm not trying to make her out as some demonic laughing nun who rained misfortune upon others. but she didn't do anything to alleviate their pain when she had the resources to do so and claimed that that was her mission.



Mc Esse	Dec 5 2011, 09:53 PM Post #7
Posts: 2,273 Group: Member Member #4,041 Joined: March 21, 2009 Favourite Anime Jersey Shore What Browser do you use? FF Favourite Manga Batman	Weren't her clinics in India, one of the dirtiest countries in the world. Plus don't blame her for not using her donations to her fullest extent. She was uneductaed, and answered to the Vatican. If anything, blame the Vatican.



TrunksinSwimmingTrunks	Dec 6 2011, 04:11 AM Post #8
Formerly known as daman Posts: 8,651 Group: Member Member #5,599 Joined: January 6, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country Canada Favourite Anime One Piece, Gintama, You and Me, Haibane Renmei, Initial D, FMAB, No. 6, Wtt NHK! , Dragon Ball What Browser do you use? Tortoises were made to live not be used. Stormo/Pedy/Nims/songohanfrancais whereru Favourite Manga Dorohedoro,IamaHero, Again!!, All Rounder Meguru,RRR,Berserk,Dragon Boru. Ninjajp/Slayerslice appeal	Yeh the Vatican in Italy is partly to blame.
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~~Destiny~~	Dec 6 2011, 08:09 AM Post #9
Posts: 7,206 Group: GTFO Member #5,331 Joined: October 16, 2010	wolffanghameha Dec 6 2011, 04:11 AM Yeh the Vatican in Italy is partly to blame. Can't that be said about anyone who answers to a higher authority? Still gotta take responsibility not point fingers to others.



Mc Esse	Dec 6 2011, 09:25 PM Post #10
Posts: 2,273 Group: Member Member #4,041 Joined: March 21, 2009 Favourite Anime Jersey Shore What Browser do you use? FF Favourite Manga Batman	Sasuke Dec 6 2011, 08:09 AM wolffanghameha Dec 6 2011, 04:11 AM Yeh the Vatican in Italy is partly to blame. Can't that be said about anyone who answers to a higher authority? Still gotta take responsibility not point fingers to others. Imagine you opened up a manga shop in Chinatown, and one day the Chinese Mob comes to your shop and says ''Here are 6 bullets, pay me 100$ for each bullet or else you're going to get these bullets through your head'' Imagine they do that every week. Meanwhile you are only making ends meet, so in order not to forclose your house you use some of your daughters college fund to pay the mortgage. People who are blaming mother Teresa for her wrong doings, sound like angry daughters who blame their father for his decisions, in this example.



~~Nimbo-Bimbo lord of all noobs~~	Jan 3 2012, 01:00 AM Post #11
Posts: 2,687 Group: GTFO Member #6,954 Joined: November 6, 2011	Wow this was... enlightening, putting it mildly. I guess that this can be the result of being a religious extremist. I'm really conflicted. For one, I am agnostic, but on the other side, I kind of viewed Mother Teresa as a hero because she is also part Albanian, which I am.



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