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| kid buu vs mystic gohan; who would win | |
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| + Pyrus | Dec 17 2011, 05:43 PM Post #46 |
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What? When did he ever become "mortal"? Boo is Boo, regardless of who he has inside him.
Because he couldn't find an opening, not because he couldn't in general.
So he's the one that brings up Goku being able to do it, yet a minute later he's against the idea? That makes no sense.
Do you know how disasterous it would've been if one of those two had been absorbed again? They were not taking that chance, just like they didn't allow Kibitoshin to be on the battlefield. It had to be Goku and Vegeta.
Plot-induced stupidity? He was already set on the idea of the Genki-dama. The drain of SSjin 3 was immense, and if Goku missed his chance again, it would've been curtains. The Genki-dama was the only surefire way to get it done because it couldn't miss. Let me ask you something now. Do you believe Goku when he said he could've beaten Dai Kaioshin Boo? If so, how do you think he would've done it?
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| NavonWise | Dec 17 2011, 06:08 PM Post #47 |
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I don't know if you missed Vegetto's quote of, Buu was better off without a nose, and that he was bleeding now. When did we ever saw Buu BLEED? Not even Super Buu bled, so how is that not becoming more mortal? He's absorbing mortals and becoming one with them, how is he not becoming mortal? Yeah, but where is it stated Vegeta didn't bring Gohan because of this? What your saying is your own idea and theory of why Vegeta didn't want Gohan in, but this was never stated. Gohan, the one that is WAY stronger than Goku, will let him self get absorbed that fast again? You doubt Gohan that much? He was once absorbed before, and you think he'll fall for it again? And they didn't allow Kibitokai because either way, he wouldn't help much. The genki dama wouldn't miss? Lol come on are you serious? I'll ask again, if you think, Vegeta knew Goku could have taken out this new Buu, that they never fought before, in one blow, then why not restore Goku? Yes the SSJ3 does drain your energy, but we're talking about a fresh new Goku who could have gathered his Kamehameha much faster than the genki dama and unleashed it much faster reaching Kid Buu much faster. And again we have Gohan, you have no evidence Vegeta didn't want Gohan to get absorbed again, so if he thought Gohan could have done it he would have wished him there. And, a minute later? Let's see, he tells Goku he'll hold Buu off for one minute yet Goku lasts longer, then Good Buu goes in and they both watch Good Buu get beat like a pulp, you think he just changed his mind like that? Again I am not saying Kid Buu could beat Gohan, I'm saying Gohan can't beat Buu in one blow. Also I find it interesting Goku wanted both Gotenks and Gohan to help, not just Gohan. |
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| * Yu Narukami | Dec 17 2011, 08:34 PM Post #48 |
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Goku stated that, at full power, he could've destroyed Pure Boo with a full shot, it's just that Pure Boo was too unpredictable and Goku couldn't find a consistent opening in his fighting style. Gohan doesn't need to look for an opening, he's just that much stronger that any defence Pure Boo put up wouldn't do anything. |
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Dec 17 2011, 08:48 PM Post #49 |
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What all of you apparently don't realise is that Son Goku is the main character. He HAS to always be the strongest in the arc. Hell, just look at the 21st Tenkaichi Budoukai arc, Piccolo Daimao arc, Saiya-jin arc, and Cell arc! Oh wait. |
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| + Clearin | Dec 17 2011, 08:49 PM Post #50 |
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You forgot Buu arc where if you count villains he ends up as like tied 4th strongest. |
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| + Pyrus | Dec 17 2011, 08:52 PM Post #51 |
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It's because he had a nose that he bled, hence the second part of Vegetto's quote. Absorbing Gohan and the kids didn't suddenly make him more human. All he took was their power and intelligence in Piccolo's case. He was still Boo.
On the same plain, what you're saying is your theory of why Vegeta didn't bring him. In the story, there is no reason for Vegeta's decision, at least on the surface; he just rejects the idea without saying why. I could argue he didn't want them there because he was set on the Genki-dama, and he wanted the humans to save themselves, which is what he said.
He fell for it even after seeing Gotenks and Piccolo absorbed. Who's to say Boo wouldn't find another clever way of absorbing one of them? Vegeta and Goku were there already, so they weren't going anywhere; bringing more people would be counter-productive.
He was still around Vegeta's strength at minimum.
And if he missed? That would be their one shot gone.
If Vegetto could, why couldn't Gohan? And you didn't answer my question about Dai Kaioshin Boo, which would probably end this debate.
It seemed like more of him listing the options off the top of his head. |
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Dec 18 2011, 02:56 AM Post #52 |
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I think you really need to chill here. We're here debatin on something as trivial as an anime, which though means BIG to many of us here, lets not lose our heads. One thing bro, I just find that most of ya posts are completly, overwhelmingly OVERPOWERING Ultimate Gohan. Chill, we knw that he's potential has been unlocked so on and so forth, but sayin like melting Kid Buu in a wind, generic ki blasts, etc is pure exaggeration... Its Mystic Gohan u see. He just got his potential unlocked. That doesn't necesarily makes him the ONLY MOST STRONGEST in the entire universe. Its like ur sayin a single punch Gohan throws on Kid Buu could blast him apart, or even an entire planet, for which is over exaggeration. It took a Chou Genki Dama to wipe Buu out for God's Sake. Lets be reasonable with our opinions. |
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| NavonWise | Dec 18 2011, 03:01 AM Post #53 |
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I never said he was becoming more Human, Humans aren't the only mortals. Frieza is a mortal, Piccolo is a mortal, Saiyans are mortals. The point is he was tying himself more to the mortal realm. Buu is a demon, a mystical demon... Well which one makes sense? Gohan is not clumsy to get caught by the same move twice, Vegeta knows Gohan is not that clumsy so I doubt it was because he would get absorbed. And I guess that is one of the reasons, Vegeta wanted the Humans to do something for a change, but Goku did not strongly reject the idea. He picked the genki dama over Gohan after seeing Gohan's powers.. Kid Buu and clever do not go together in my opinion lol We never saw him in action, everything we say about how powerful he is would not be fact, just speculation. Ok same goes for the genki dama, which is slower to produce and to get to it's target. Can't compare Vegetto's power with Gohan. I mean I'm not going to say he can't do it, I'm more of in between to be honest, 70% of me says he can't. My thing is Goku couldn't do it. And you mean Fat Buu? Didn't Goku say he probably could have beaten him? I don't think he says he was 100% sure he could have beaten Fat Buu. And plus as I mentioned before, this was the first time they fought anything like Buu. How would he know what to do when he never faced anything like that before? Kid Buu was the first Buu Goku actually fought for real. Goku clearly says "and" instead of "or" though. |
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