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| Vita | Dec 3 2011, 12:18 PM Post #1 |
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Imperfect Cell (Post Humans) Semi Perfect Cell ASSJ Vegeta (Post 1st Rosat) Initial Perfect Cell How far can he go? |
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| + Pyrus | Dec 3 2011, 12:19 PM Post #2 |
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I think he loses to the last three. There should be a giant gap between the first and second guys. |
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Dec 3 2011, 12:31 PM Post #3 |
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Cell Games Piccolo = 445,000,000 Imperfect Cell Post Humans = 400,000,000 = Piccolo wins Semi Perfect Cell = 1,000,000,000 = Piccolo gets stomped ASSJ Vegeta = 2,250,000,000 = Piccolo gets roflstomped Initial Perfect Cell = 15,000,000,000 = Piccolo gets 1-shotted |
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| + Clearin | Dec 3 2011, 01:12 PM Post #4 |
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I think Piccolo is sliiii~ightly above 50% Goku. Piccolo had to ask if he could beat Cell (Although he was 99.9% sure he couldn't which is why I say sliiiightly) while Goku had already admitted that his 50% (100% to everyone else) couldn't. So I think Piccolo beats everyone on the list except maybe initial perfect. Edited by Clearin, Dec 3 2011, 01:13 PM.
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| + supersaqer | Dec 3 2011, 02:02 PM Post #5 |
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By feats, he beats the hell of Imperfect Cell, Semi-Perfect Cell and ASSJ Vegeta but he struggles with Initial Perfect Cell but he should win that. By power levels, He one-shots all of them. By non-DBZ guys, He gets stomped in all the fights except for Imperfect Cell and prooooo~bably Semi-Perfect Cell. Edited by supersaqer, Dec 3 2011, 02:03 PM.
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| + Pyrus | Dec 3 2011, 02:45 PM Post #6 |
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I don't know. He didn't really ask. Goku was the one that brought up Piccolo's new power, and Piccolo pretty much immediately shot him down, and then Goku shat on him even more. Chapter: 392 (DBZ 198), P13.1-5 Goku: “Hey… Piccolo! Did you go in the Room of Spirit and Time?” Piccolo: “Indeed.” Goku: “I can tell! You’ve risen to an entirely different level.” Piccolo: “…Why don’t you just be frank with me? I’ve grown stronger, but even so, it won’t do any good against Cell…” Goku: “…Yeah, it won’t do any good.” Piccolo: “Hmph…You really were frank…” Edited by Pyrus, Dec 3 2011, 02:47 PM.
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| + Clearin | Dec 3 2011, 03:17 PM Post #7 |
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True. Well I can't see him being lower than Semi-Perfect anyway. Vegeta, Trunks, Gohan and Goku all entered much lower than Piccolo and all came out stronger than Semi-Perfect. |
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| DanielSan | Dec 3 2011, 04:43 PM Post #8 |
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I think Piccolo can beat the first 2 easily on the list. Not sure about Vegeta and I think he would lose to cell. So that is what I think. |
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| + Pyrus | Dec 3 2011, 04:52 PM Post #9 |
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The Saiyans all had something going for them though. Gohan - extreme potential and a brand-spanking-new transformation. Goku - mastering the form for quicker power growth (hit a wall which backs it up IMO). Vegeta - "ascended" and looked to be on his way to mastering the form by the Cell Games. Trunks - same as Vegeta. Piccolo may've had potential from fusing with Kami, but I doubt it was anywhere near enough to overcome what the Saiyans had going for them. Just my opinion though. |
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| Wintergreen5000 | Dec 3 2011, 05:14 PM Post #10 |
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Goku wasn't saying that he was no match for Complete Cell [initial], he was saying that Piccolo is no match for how powerful Goku believes Cell really is. That's why I don't see that quote as proof of anything other than nobody at that point had the power to take on Cell. Even Goku stated he was probably no match for Cell. And I couldn't see Piccolo, who was previously far stronger than the Super Saiyans, being weaker than Semi-Complete Cell. Cell states that only Vegeta and Trunks could hold their own against the Cell Jrs, however, at the end of their fights, only Vegeta, Trunks, and Piccolo are still standing. Apparently Piccolo was strong enough to stay alive against the Cell Jrs, but not well enough to recieve merit from Cell as "holding his own". So he was probably losing, but not horribly. Vegeta had the confidence that he could defeat Cell, which means he must be stronger than Complete Cell [initial] and at least on MSSjin Goku's 50% level. So for Piccolo to be able to stay alive against the Cell Jr he would definately have to be stronger than Semi-Complete Cell. In my opinion, he is most likely on Complete Cell's initial level. Here's my list of logic: Complete Cell [initial] < MSSjin Goku [50%] </= SSjin Vegeta [Post 2nd RoSaT] = Cell Jr. > Piccolo [Post-RoSaT]. Edited by Wintergreen5000, Dec 3 2011, 05:16 PM.
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| + Pyrus | Dec 3 2011, 06:01 PM Post #11 |
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Well, yes, but Piccolo didn't know Goku was thinking outside the box.
I don't take that to mean much. Tenshinhan was standing when Goku was getting his ***** beat, but we certainly can't say Tenshinhan > tired MSSjin Goku. Edited by Pyrus, Dec 3 2011, 06:02 PM.
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| Wintergreen5000 | Dec 3 2011, 06:36 PM Post #12 |
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Volume 17 Page 78: Goku - "No way of knowing how powerful it'll be when it finally gets down to business." Here Goku expressed to everyone that Cell is harboring unseen power upon return from his little chat with the monster. So when Goku tells Piccolo that he most likely isn't a match against Cell, it is understood on this basis that Cell is much stronger than what he is showing, not that he isn't a match for Cell's current suppressed level. Secondly, I see your point, and what I stated earlier regarding this was not without notion of what you brought up. What I am talking about is the end of the fight with the Cell Jrs, not the middle of it. At the end, only Trunks, Vegeta, and Piccolo were standing. Everyone else was on the ground. The end gives an idea on how powerful Piccolo may actually be, and that's my point. If Vegeta and Trunks were holding their own that means that the Cell Jrs were going all-out, at least on Vegeta and Trunks. They weren't holding back. So the fact that we see Piccolo standing, and, really, in good shape overall at the end, gives the hint to me that he isn't very much behind the Cell Jr, since it was most likely going all out on Piccolo too. The Cell Jrs have ki sensing ability so they can know who is strong and who isn't. Just because they would go all out on Vegeta and Trunks doesn't mean they would go all out on Yamcha and Tien, otherwise their heads would've been punched off and such. And I guess you could make that argument for Piccolo as well, but if that were the case, then why wasn't Piccolo on the ground like everyone else? Why would the Cell Jr hold back power against Piccolo if he knew that Piccolo could be put down easily like the other Z-fighters? why would the Cell Jr subject himself to punches and pain?Answer is: Piccolo must've been some kind of a challenge for the Cell Jr. The fact that he is in good condition at the end of the fight is proof of that, otherwise he'd be on the floor like the others. |
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| Kruegs Outlandish | Dec 3 2011, 08:37 PM Post #13 |
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ILLusionaire! beat me to it. bout to go to work. would you mind dropping something in this topic, or if not, amke some type of comment here. |
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| sylentknyte | Dec 5 2011, 11:54 PM Post #14 |
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Imo: Piccolo (Cell Games): 1,200,000,000 >Imperfect Cell (Post Humans): 530,000,000 >Semi Perfect Cell: 900,000,000 =ASSJ Vegeta (Post 1st Rosat): 1,200,000,000 <Initial Perfect Cell: 2,000,000,000 1-shots Imperfect Cell, defeats Semi-Perfect Cell in a decent but one-sided battle, Fights Vegeta to a draw, loses badly to Initial Perfect Cell. |
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| Mihawk | Dec 5 2011, 11:57 PM Post #15 |
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I think he can beat initial and semi perfect cell. |
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