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| SSJ2 Majin Vegeta's Final Explosion vs LSSJ2 Broly; can broly survive? | |
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| + Clearin | Dec 3 2011, 10:31 PM Post #16 |
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Didn't Babidi survive Vegeta's attack by using a shield? And he was only half a body at that time |
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| Wintergreen5000 | Dec 4 2011, 03:44 AM Post #17 |
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Well I'm not contesting the fact that his attack is immensely powerful; I'm suggesting that Broly's ki shield is enough to protect him from death and possibly injury against that attack, since a LSSjin 2 Broly could quite possibly be stronger than SSjin 3 Goku. Also, In the manga Piccolo says "anything less would've allowed Boo to regenerate". So the wording is different, at least in my viz book. All that means is that it would take an attack as engulfing and powerful as Vegeta's self-destruction to have a hope in killing Buu, at least that's what Piccolo hoped when he said that. He was wrong. While Buu was blown to smithereens he didn't attempt to protect himself with a ki shield. Not only that, but Buu's body can be easily ripped apart by a ki blast from an SSjin 2. It doesn't take a fighter of the same strength to blow Buu up. This is seen with Vegeta and Gotenks. If LSSjin 2 Broly is even stronger than SSjin 3, which I suspect it probably would be, then I doubt that Vegeta blowing himself up would kill Broly, especially if he had his ki shield up. To Ninja - It did hold up. Broly's ki shield didn't break until after he hit the Sun. You can see that Broly still has his ki shield up in space while being pushed. If it was to break from the Kamehameha Wave it would've broke on impact, but it didn't, so it can't break in space either unless met with another object, like the Sun. |
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Dec 4 2011, 04:58 AM Post #18 |
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thats not what i saw, his ki shield snapped and cracked, they pushed and he was heaved out into space, then he hit the sun and the kamehameha wave smashed him, we both know this, but then...how did his blood get on the ground??
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| + Pyrus | Dec 4 2011, 05:35 AM Post #19 |
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His blood was on the ground from when he was frozen in ice. You're thinking of when his huge energy blast was shattered by the Kamehameha. That wasn't his barrier, which he put up right before the Family Kamehameha hit him. @9:38 It's clear his barrier was intact when he was pushed out of Earth's atmosphere. |
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Dec 4 2011, 07:33 AM Post #20 |
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NO, clearly movie 11 as told from the fake shamans side of the story as he watched it, they recounted brolys ki shield being destroyed and him being heaved into the air ,it was implying he was blown apart even before he was heaved off into space. Otherwise itwas just his blood left to freeze on the ground. Movie 11 was clear that the blood came from broly when he was blown away, not from when he crash landed. |
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| + Pyrus | Dec 4 2011, 08:30 AM Post #21 |
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Goten: "You're the one who brought Broly here, didn't you?" Shaman: "Thanks to you two, I've lost my respect in Nataday Village! People stopped coming to me for leadership!" Trunks: "Broly wasn't dead?" Shaman: "Broly was dead alright. He was completely destroyed by you guys. The one you saw down there is a new Broly revived by biotechnology!" *flashback* "I collected the frozen blood of Broly and sold it to the Baron." The flashback is of him finding Broly's space pod and collecting the frozen blood there, so he didn't get it after Broly had been blasted off the planet. It could only have come from the area he crash landed since that was where his pod was, and he was nowhere near his pod when he was booted. At the start of your post you mention the shaman recounting how Broly's barrier was crushed, but it's definitely not in there, Japanese or English dub. All he says is that Broly was dead. There's no flashback of him witnessing Broly's actual defeat. Even the flashback of his defeat in the movie showed the Kamehameha breaking his attack, but not the barrier he put up. He was taken off the planet with the barrier intact, and the next we actually see of him he's burning up in the sun. We never see even a glimpse of his barrier breaking before he's cast off the planet, so I'm not sure where you're seeing it. Edited by Pyrus, Dec 4 2011, 08:31 AM.
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Dec 4 2011, 09:23 PM Post #22 |
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after careful review, of a couple different vids, it was apparent i hadnt noticed that broly didnt put up his shield until after his ki blast was broken and shattered, i always assumed it was just part of his aura, but instead i saw broly actually have enough time to maneuver around before he even put the shield up as a last resort realizing he wasnt gonna get out of the way in time. But i stand by what i said happened in space, when broly was being pushed around orbit and out towards the sun is when his shield disappeared, his wound busted open, THEN he hit the sun and exploded. SO....why is brolys blood always green? personally i still think its from the energy he uses to build his "energy" suit, and not blood at all. but to each his own. |
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| + Pyrus | Dec 4 2011, 09:44 PM Post #23 |
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I think his barrier actually bursts inside the sun. There's a small bit when we see him in there where a green circle expands and bursts, but I can't go and check right now. |
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| The Lonely Fighter | Dec 4 2011, 09:50 PM Post #24 |
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the explosion will work i'm sure |
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| Wintergreen5000 | Dec 5 2011, 04:07 PM Post #25 |
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If his shield didn't break on impact it's not going to break while he's being pushed afterwards. The reason is because his ki shield would have already taken the full force of the attack, after that he would be going with the flow of the wave. No way it's going to crack in space unless met with an opposing force or object like the Sun. That's why it would've had to break in the Sun. |
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Dec 6 2011, 04:01 AM Post #26 |
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what do you mean why it WOULD have? by the frame of broly being pushed around the planet came into view the barrier was completely gone, his wound burst open and then he was flattened by the wave against the sun, and pushed out the other side. I cant tell if the barrier is up or not but i sure dont see it past that certain point. |
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| + Pyrus | Dec 6 2011, 04:09 AM Post #27 |
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We don't see Broly at all after he's pushed off the planet until we see his heart bursting. The light from the Kamehameha is too bright. |
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Dec 6 2011, 04:12 AM Post #28 |
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Then theres not much reason for the guy above me to claim the barrier holds up all the way to the sun then cracks apart. it was never shown, the barrier disapperared by the time he hit the event horizon. Just watched it again, i still only see the final shot surrounding him in super blaze of light, engulfing and carrying him, then his wound bursts open and he gets smashed into the sun, turned inside out. Horrible death... Edited by Paikuan extreme, Dec 6 2011, 04:19 AM.
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| + Pyrus | Dec 6 2011, 04:15 AM Post #29 |
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There'd be no basis for your side of the argument either then. I do agree with Ill because if the barrier survived the initial impact, there'd be no reason for it to break until it hit the sun; it's already survived the strongest force, so it'd only be along for the ride after that. |
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Dec 6 2011, 04:20 AM Post #30 |
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refer to edited post ^^^ i mean seriously??? if you are surrounded by a protective shield, why not simply do whats been done before? and get out of the waves path? broly did not have that option, at all. Edited by Paikuan extreme, Dec 6 2011, 04:22 AM.
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