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| cell games Piccolo(no weights) vs imperfect cell(post humans) | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Nov 30 2011, 11:36 AM (1,101 Views) | |
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Nov 30 2011, 11:16 PM Post #16 |
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Post rosat piccolo and imperfect cell is a good match, i mean cell took out 17 with piccolo trying to protect him. They both failed. In a one on one fight like with 17, piccolo would win. Cell wasnt very smart before becoming semi perfect... However since it would be a fight to the death, piccolo would pull out all the stops. It takes power for them BOTH to regenerate. Just based on what ive seen i believe piccolo takes this with his cunning and use of power. Him and imperfect cell are in perfect range for hurting each other. In the end i think a kaikosen with a light grenade blast would do it. |
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Dec 1 2011, 05:29 AM Post #17 |
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Piccolo turns this fight into the Texas Chainsaw Massacre. |
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| MetaCooler | Dec 1 2011, 05:50 AM Post #18 |
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I disagree, I prefer his personality in imperfect form to Semi Perfect. He displayed Vegeta-like traits in semi-perfect form, though I admit that's probably what saved his life in the end. |
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| Muhahahaha | Dec 1 2011, 04:28 PM Post #19 |
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KP: Is this list better? #17 100 Piccolo 104 exhausted 66.5 Light grende powa 179.55 Imperfect cell 266.24 #16 250 Semi perfect cell surpassed 500 full power 666.66 Edited by Muhahahaha, Dec 1 2011, 04:28 PM.
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Dec 1 2011, 06:05 PM Post #20 |
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In imperfect form he seemed smart because he was bent on surviving until he got his full power, so in my mind he ALWAYS had delusions of grandeur. So to me thats what made him dumb because he was COMPLETELY one track minded. If he hadnt absorbed all those poor humans, tien and krillin could have killed him easy. |
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| + supersaqer | Dec 1 2011, 07:04 PM Post #21 |
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It has some problems, but it's still OK. It's not surpassed, it's suppressed. Surpassed means that you have gotten better or stronger, etc... in many ways, like Goku surpassed Vegeta after his x100 gravity training. Suppressed means that he isn't giving all what he has got or holding back, like Cell wasn't using his full power against Goku, he was suppressing it. I'll fix the list for you. #17 : 800 Piccolo : 850 Exhausted Piccolo : 425 Light Grenade : 1275 Imperfect Cell : 1350 - 1500 #16 : 1300 - 1450 Semi Perfect Cell (Suppressed) : 3000 - 3500 Semi Perfect Cell (Full Power) : 5000 - 7000 Edited by supersaqer, Dec 2 2011, 07:28 AM.
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| + Pyrus | Dec 1 2011, 09:30 PM Post #22 |
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Yeah, that's cool, except I'd raise #16 a little to 255, but that's just tiny nitpicking on my part.
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| Muhahahaha | Dec 1 2011, 09:36 PM Post #23 |
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a 6-18% difference between piccolo's attack and cell is WAY too small. cell should minimum be 30% ahead of the attack. he tanked it without really doing anything. About the "surpassed" I'm sorry my english is..
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| lunar2 | Dec 2 2011, 01:56 AM Post #24 |
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1. all the androids had "scanners" of some sort. I think #16's was just the only one that worked over distances. so #17 would have known roughly how powerful the light grenade was. it just has to be stronger than #17's barrier to scare him like that. 2. unless the light grenade is a genki attack, i don't see it as being that high of an amplification while still being charged so quickly. again, it just needs to be strong enough to be a serious threat to #17. piccolo was desperate, and was pulling out his last option. that doesn't mean that it needs to be a good option. it needs to be better when quick charged than the masenko, sure, but i certainly don't think it should be better than a fully charged beam. 3. i don't think the 30% rule holds all that much water, really. i think it should be more along the lines of 1/6 difference than 1/3. that's because i place more importance on vegeta vs. dodoria than vegeta vs. cui, which iirc is where the 30% rule comes from. so, instead of: 1. 10% or less: rivalling range 2. 11-20%: clear advantage 3. 21-30%: long shot 4. >30%: absolute stomp each should be cut about in half. all of this still leads to cell being 30-50% ahead of piccolo, which is pretty much standard, i think. |
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| + Pyrus | Dec 2 2011, 03:09 AM Post #25 |
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I'll try that out and see what becomes of this... |
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| Kruegs Outlandish | Dec 2 2011, 07:25 AM Post #26 |
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This looks good enough, and it actually look a lot like what I use, though I'm pretty sure I stated that in the SPC vs SSJ2 Goku topic. essential I'd say my def of stomp and your def of long shot are the same. I start with 1.1 and then multiply by 1.1 each time. basically, if A stomps B if A has an advantage over someone who has an advantage of B. 100% 110% 121% 133.1% 146.41% etc. I'm trying to tier everyone relevant in Z up and then apply this to get something of a bp list going. |
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| + supersaqer | Dec 2 2011, 07:30 AM Post #27 |
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#17 : 800 Piccolo : 850 Exhausted Piccolo : 425 Light Grenade : 1275 Imperfect Cell : 2000 #16 : 1950 Semi Perfect Cell (Suppressed) : 5000 Semi Perfect Cell (Full Power) : 8000 Is this a better list? |
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| Muhahahaha | Dec 2 2011, 08:27 AM Post #28 |
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Yes much better, just wondering what method you use for semi perfect cell(full power)? |
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| Muhahahaha | Dec 2 2011, 08:46 AM Post #29 |
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mm 30-50%? I dunno. I think pretty much every little blast/beam they throw is at least x1.8 by this point of the series by the very least, no reason to be below that. the attack was charged for a bit of time. #17 barrier can block any weak blast(x2 of him) only. so it must be around x2.5 minimum. #17 100(barrier: 220) Piccolo 102(cutted in half the difference) Exhausted 66.2 Light grande powa 165.5 Imperfect cell/#16 205(cut by half the difference) Cell still ends up 105% stronger. u cant think any simple attack is so weak. in order to have cell 30-50% stronger piccolo's attack would have to be x1.8-1.9 at the very most. charging the ki blast for long doesnt add to it that much power IMO. Edited by Muhahahaha, Dec 2 2011, 08:59 AM.
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