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Master Roshi Vs. The Bleach Verse
Topic Started: Nov 28 2011, 04:42 PM (1,892 Views)
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Who would win? In an all-out battle.
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Obviously wrong section, but I don't think Roshi can win once Ichigo starts going at the speed of sound. It'd probably taking a Z fighter to beat him/the rest at the speed of sound at that point.

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Obviously wrong section, but I don't think Roshi can win once Ichigo starts going at the speed of sound. It'd probably taking a Z fighter to beat him/the rest at the speed of sound at that point.
Nope, Ichigo can't bust a planet. A BOZ Krillin could defeat him, if he wanted to. My answer is Roshi has a bit of difficulty but eventually wins.
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Well,he has a bit of difficulty but wins,guy can destroy moon...
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Obviously wrong section, but I don't think Roshi can win once Ichigo starts going at the speed of sound. It'd probably taking a Z fighter to beat him/the rest at the speed of sound at that point.
Nope, Ichigo can't bust a planet. A BOZ Krillin could defeat him, if he wanted to. My answer is Roshi has a bit of difficulty but eventually wins.
Nope, a charged Kamehahmeha isn't going to win a battle. Sure if he's gonna go Kamikize and destroy that Earth that's one way. But just comparing how much a charged blast vs a character doesn't mean anything unless they're exchanging ki blasts or something. Ichigo will speed blitz Roshi and kill him even though Roshi is stronger.

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Obviously wrong section, but I don't think Roshi can win once Ichigo starts going at the speed of sound. It'd probably taking a Z fighter to beat him/the rest at the speed of sound at that point.
Nope, Ichigo can't bust a planet. A BOZ Krillin could defeat him, if he wanted to. My answer is Roshi has a bit of difficulty but eventually wins.
Nope, a charged Kamehahmeha isn't going to win a battle. Sure if he's gonna go Kamikize and destroy that Earth that's one way. But just comparing how much a charged blast vs a character doesn't mean anything unless they're exchanging ki blasts or something. Ichigo will speed blitz Roshi and kill him even though Roshi is stronger.
That makes no sense whatsoever; if Roshi is indeed stronger he will just knock Ichigo away into boulders after a brief struggle and then proceed to blow him away. Speed isn't everything.
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Obviously wrong section, but I don't think Roshi can win once Ichigo starts going at the speed of sound. It'd probably taking a Z fighter to beat him/the rest at the speed of sound at that point.
Nope, Ichigo can't bust a planet. A BOZ Krillin could defeat him, if he wanted to. My answer is Roshi has a bit of difficulty but eventually wins.
Nope, a charged Kamehahmeha isn't going to win a battle. Sure if he's gonna go Kamikize and destroy that Earth that's one way. But just comparing how much a charged blast vs a character doesn't mean anything unless they're exchanging ki blasts or something. Ichigo will speed blitz Roshi and kill him even though Roshi is stronger.
That makes no sense whatsoever; if Roshi is indeed stronger he will just knock Ichigo away into boulders after a brief struggle and then proceed to blow him away. Speed isn't everything.
Ki blasts isn't everything. Roshi was scared of moving that boulder back in DB. If a character is faster it won't matter how strong he is. Even if he can bust 10 moons it won't make a difference if Roshi can't touch Ichigo.

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Obviously wrong section, but I don't think Roshi can win once Ichigo starts going at the speed of sound. It'd probably taking a Z fighter to beat him/the rest at the speed of sound at that point.
Nope, Ichigo can't bust a planet. A BOZ Krillin could defeat him, if he wanted to. My answer is Roshi has a bit of difficulty but eventually wins.
Nope, a charged Kamehahmeha isn't going to win a battle. Sure if he's gonna go Kamikize and destroy that Earth that's one way. But just comparing how much a charged blast vs a character doesn't mean anything unless they're exchanging ki blasts or something. Ichigo will speed blitz Roshi and kill him even though Roshi is stronger.
That makes no sense whatsoever; if Roshi is indeed stronger he will just knock Ichigo away into boulders after a brief struggle and then proceed to blow him away. Speed isn't everything.
Ki blasts isn't everything. Roshi was scared of moving that boulder back in DB. If a character is faster it won't matter how strong he is. Even if he can bust 10 moons it won't make a difference if Roshi can't touch Ichigo.
If Roshi is the stronger of the two, he'd obviously still have a slight speed advantage. According to your logic, Ichigo would be able to take Superman if he's faster than him and we both know that would never, ever happen.
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Obviously wrong section, but I don't think Roshi can win once Ichigo starts going at the speed of sound. It'd probably taking a Z fighter to beat him/the rest at the speed of sound at that point.
Nope, Ichigo can't bust a planet. A BOZ Krillin could defeat him, if he wanted to. My answer is Roshi has a bit of difficulty but eventually wins.
Nope, a charged Kamehahmeha isn't going to win a battle. Sure if he's gonna go Kamikize and destroy that Earth that's one way. But just comparing how much a charged blast vs a character doesn't mean anything unless they're exchanging ki blasts or something. Ichigo will speed blitz Roshi and kill him even though Roshi is stronger.
That makes no sense whatsoever; if Roshi is indeed stronger he will just knock Ichigo away into boulders after a brief struggle and then proceed to blow him away. Speed isn't everything.
Ki blasts isn't everything. Roshi was scared of moving that boulder back in DB. If a character is faster it won't matter how strong he is. Even if he can bust 10 moons it won't make a difference if Roshi can't touch Ichigo.
If Roshi is the stronger of the two, he'd obviously still have a slight speed advantage. According to your logic, Ichigo would be able to take Superman if he's faster than him and we both know that would never, ever happen.
No that's a logical fallacy. Ichigo can't take superman because superman is faster than the speed of light at some points and is therefore stronger faster than Ichigo. If Ichigo could even have a slight speed advantage nothing would hurt superman of Ichigo's. Ichigo is faster than Roshi because of how fast Gotenks went around the Earth. DB characters only start fighting at light speed in DBZ and that's pushing it since most people don't even agree with me there because of how slow Gotenks was around the Earth. You're making the same mistake Trunks made against Cell. Cell admitted Trunks was stronger but it didn't matter at all since he was too slow.

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Obviously wrong section, but I don't think Roshi can win once Ichigo starts going at the speed of sound. It'd probably taking a Z fighter to beat him/the rest at the speed of sound at that point.
Nope, Ichigo can't bust a planet. A BOZ Krillin could defeat him, if he wanted to. My answer is Roshi has a bit of difficulty but eventually wins.
Nope, a charged Kamehahmeha isn't going to win a battle. Sure if he's gonna go Kamikize and destroy that Earth that's one way. But just comparing how much a charged blast vs a character doesn't mean anything unless they're exchanging ki blasts or something. Ichigo will speed blitz Roshi and kill him even though Roshi is stronger.
That makes no sense whatsoever; if Roshi is indeed stronger he will just knock Ichigo away into boulders after a brief struggle and then proceed to blow him away. Speed isn't everything.
Ki blasts isn't everything. Roshi was scared of moving that boulder back in DB. If a character is faster it won't matter how strong he is. Even if he can bust 10 moons it won't make a difference if Roshi can't touch Ichigo.
If Roshi is the stronger of the two, he'd obviously still have a slight speed advantage. According to your logic, Ichigo would be able to take Superman if he's faster than him and we both know that would never, ever happen.
No that's a logical fallacy. Ichigo can't take superman because superman is faster than the speed of light at some points and is therefore stronger faster than Ichigo. If Ichigo could even have a slight speed advantage nothing would hurt superman of Ichigo's. Ichigo is faster than Roshi because of how fast Gotenks went around the Earth. DB characters only start fighting at light speed in DBZ and that's pushing it since most people don't even agree with me there because of how slow Gotenks was around the Earth. You're making the same mistake Trunks made against Cell. Cell admitted Trunks was stronger but it didn't matter at all since he was too slow.
And when did Ichigo travel at the speed of light? What are his feats?
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Obviously wrong section, but I don't think Roshi can win once Ichigo starts going at the speed of sound. It'd probably taking a Z fighter to beat him/the rest at the speed of sound at that point.
Nope, Ichigo can't bust a planet. A BOZ Krillin could defeat him, if he wanted to. My answer is Roshi has a bit of difficulty but eventually wins.
Nope, a charged Kamehahmeha isn't going to win a battle. Sure if he's gonna go Kamikize and destroy that Earth that's one way. But just comparing how much a charged blast vs a character doesn't mean anything unless they're exchanging ki blasts or something. Ichigo will speed blitz Roshi and kill him even though Roshi is stronger.
That makes no sense whatsoever; if Roshi is indeed stronger he will just knock Ichigo away into boulders after a brief struggle and then proceed to blow him away. Speed isn't everything.
Ki blasts isn't everything. Roshi was scared of moving that boulder back in DB. If a character is faster it won't matter how strong he is. Even if he can bust 10 moons it won't make a difference if Roshi can't touch Ichigo.
If Roshi is the stronger of the two, he'd obviously still have a slight speed advantage. According to your logic, Ichigo would be able to take Superman if he's faster than him and we both know that would never, ever happen.
No that's a logical fallacy. Ichigo can't take superman because superman is faster than the speed of light at some points and is therefore stronger faster than Ichigo. If Ichigo could even have a slight speed advantage nothing would hurt superman of Ichigo's. Ichigo is faster than Roshi because of how fast Gotenks went around the Earth. DB characters only start fighting at light speed in DBZ and that's pushing it since most people don't even agree with me there because of how slow Gotenks was around the Earth. You're making the same mistake Trunks made against Cell. Cell admitted Trunks was stronger but it didn't matter at all since he was too slow.
And when did Ichigo travel at the speed of light? What are his feats?
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The speed at which the sword extends and contracts is originally said to be 500 times the speed of sound (171,500 meters per second), reaching its full length in less than 1/10 of a second, making it the fastest zanpakutō

Ichigo doged that. Not light speed, but faster than all DB characters.

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Obviously wrong section, but I don't think Roshi can win once Ichigo starts going at the speed of sound. It'd probably taking a Z fighter to beat him/the rest at the speed of sound at that point.
Nope, Ichigo can't bust a planet. A BOZ Krillin could defeat him, if he wanted to. My answer is Roshi has a bit of difficulty but eventually wins.
Nope, a charged Kamehahmeha isn't going to win a battle. Sure if he's gonna go Kamikize and destroy that Earth that's one way. But just comparing how much a charged blast vs a character doesn't mean anything unless they're exchanging ki blasts or something. Ichigo will speed blitz Roshi and kill him even though Roshi is stronger.
That makes no sense whatsoever; if Roshi is indeed stronger he will just knock Ichigo away into boulders after a brief struggle and then proceed to blow him away. Speed isn't everything.
Ki blasts isn't everything. Roshi was scared of moving that boulder back in DB. If a character is faster it won't matter how strong he is. Even if he can bust 10 moons it won't make a difference if Roshi can't touch Ichigo.
If Roshi is the stronger of the two, he'd obviously still have a slight speed advantage. According to your logic, Ichigo would be able to take Superman if he's faster than him and we both know that would never, ever happen.
No that's a logical fallacy. Ichigo can't take superman because superman is faster than the speed of light at some points and is therefore stronger faster than Ichigo. If Ichigo could even have a slight speed advantage nothing would hurt superman of Ichigo's. Ichigo is faster than Roshi because of how fast Gotenks went around the Earth. DB characters only start fighting at light speed in DBZ and that's pushing it since most people don't even agree with me there because of how slow Gotenks was around the Earth. You're making the same mistake Trunks made against Cell. Cell admitted Trunks was stronger but it didn't matter at all since he was too slow.
And when did Ichigo travel at the speed of light? What are his feats?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gin_Ichimaru
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The speed at which the sword extends and contracts is originally said to be 500 times the speed of sound (171,500 meters per second), reaching its full length in less than 1/10 of a second, making it the fastest zanpakutō

Ichigo doged that. Not light speed, but faster than all DB characters.
Dragonball era characters moved at the speed of sound; namely King Piccolo. By the time Goku arrives to fight Nappa, I'm pretty sure he can fly/move at light speed; that's what's implied anyway. Roshi wins with a struggle, but only if he's allowed to use his buff form. Otherwise he loses, I guess.
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Obviously wrong section, but I don't think Roshi can win once Ichigo starts going at the speed of sound. It'd probably taking a Z fighter to beat him/the rest at the speed of sound at that point.
Nope, Ichigo can't bust a planet. A BOZ Krillin could defeat him, if he wanted to. My answer is Roshi has a bit of difficulty but eventually wins.
Nope, a charged Kamehahmeha isn't going to win a battle. Sure if he's gonna go Kamikize and destroy that Earth that's one way. But just comparing how much a charged blast vs a character doesn't mean anything unless they're exchanging ki blasts or something. Ichigo will speed blitz Roshi and kill him even though Roshi is stronger.
That makes no sense whatsoever; if Roshi is indeed stronger he will just knock Ichigo away into boulders after a brief struggle and then proceed to blow him away. Speed isn't everything.
Ki blasts isn't everything. Roshi was scared of moving that boulder back in DB. If a character is faster it won't matter how strong he is. Even if he can bust 10 moons it won't make a difference if Roshi can't touch Ichigo.
If Roshi is the stronger of the two, he'd obviously still have a slight speed advantage. According to your logic, Ichigo would be able to take Superman if he's faster than him and we both know that would never, ever happen.
No that's a logical fallacy. Ichigo can't take superman because superman is faster than the speed of light at some points and is therefore stronger faster than Ichigo. If Ichigo could even have a slight speed advantage nothing would hurt superman of Ichigo's. Ichigo is faster than Roshi because of how fast Gotenks went around the Earth. DB characters only start fighting at light speed in DBZ and that's pushing it since most people don't even agree with me there because of how slow Gotenks was around the Earth. You're making the same mistake Trunks made against Cell. Cell admitted Trunks was stronger but it didn't matter at all since he was too slow.
And when did Ichigo travel at the speed of light? What are his feats?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gin_Ichimaru
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The speed at which the sword extends and contracts is originally said to be 500 times the speed of sound (171,500 meters per second), reaching its full length in less than 1/10 of a second, making it the fastest zanpakutō

Ichigo doged that. Not light speed, but faster than all DB characters.
Dragonball era characters moved at the speed of sound; namely King Piccolo. By the time Goku arrives to fight Nappa, I'm pretty sure he can fly/move at light speed; that's what's implied anyway. Roshi wins with a struggle, but only if he's allowed to use his buff form. Otherwise he loses, I guess.
Uh no not really Gotenks circled the earth 5 times in 3 minutes. This is why I hate debating non dbz vs dbz on a dbz forum.

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Nope, a charged Kamehahmeha isn't going to win a battle. Sure if he's gonna go Kamikize and destroy that Earth that's one way. But just comparing how much a charged blast vs a character doesn't mean anything unless they're exchanging ki blasts or something. Ichigo will speed blitz Roshi and kill him even though Roshi is stronger.
That makes no sense whatsoever; if Roshi is indeed stronger he will just knock Ichigo away into boulders after a brief struggle and then proceed to blow him away. Speed isn't everything.
Ki blasts isn't everything. Roshi was scared of moving that boulder back in DB. If a character is faster it won't matter how strong he is. Even if he can bust 10 moons it won't make a difference if Roshi can't touch Ichigo.
If Roshi is the stronger of the two, he'd obviously still have a slight speed advantage. According to your logic, Ichigo would be able to take Superman if he's faster than him and we both know that would never, ever happen.
No that's a logical fallacy. Ichigo can't take superman because superman is faster than the speed of light at some points and is therefore stronger faster than Ichigo. If Ichigo could even have a slight speed advantage nothing would hurt superman of Ichigo's. Ichigo is faster than Roshi because of how fast Gotenks went around the Earth. DB characters only start fighting at light speed in DBZ and that's pushing it since most people don't even agree with me there because of how slow Gotenks was around the Earth. You're making the same mistake Trunks made against Cell. Cell admitted Trunks was stronger but it didn't matter at all since he was too slow.
And when did Ichigo travel at the speed of light? What are his feats?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gin_Ichimaru
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The speed at which the sword extends and contracts is originally said to be 500 times the speed of sound (171,500 meters per second), reaching its full length in less than 1/10 of a second, making it the fastest zanpakutō

Ichigo doged that. Not light speed, but faster than all DB characters.
Dragonball era characters moved at the speed of sound; namely King Piccolo. By the time Goku arrives to fight Nappa, I'm pretty sure he can fly/move at light speed; that's what's implied anyway. Roshi wins with a struggle, but only if he's allowed to use his buff form. Otherwise he loses, I guess.
Uh no not really Gotenks circled the earth 5 times in 3 minutes. This is why I hate debating non dbz vs dbz on a dbz forum.
Gotenks; the one who's known to be playful and not take anything seriously. You're seriously implying that a simple humanoid could take on/defeat an experienced martial artist who has trained for hundreds of years. Really.
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That makes no sense whatsoever; if Roshi is indeed stronger he will just knock Ichigo away into boulders after a brief struggle and then proceed to blow him away. Speed isn't everything.
Ki blasts isn't everything. Roshi was scared of moving that boulder back in DB. If a character is faster it won't matter how strong he is. Even if he can bust 10 moons it won't make a difference if Roshi can't touch Ichigo.
If Roshi is the stronger of the two, he'd obviously still have a slight speed advantage. According to your logic, Ichigo would be able to take Superman if he's faster than him and we both know that would never, ever happen.
No that's a logical fallacy. Ichigo can't take superman because superman is faster than the speed of light at some points and is therefore stronger faster than Ichigo. If Ichigo could even have a slight speed advantage nothing would hurt superman of Ichigo's. Ichigo is faster than Roshi because of how fast Gotenks went around the Earth. DB characters only start fighting at light speed in DBZ and that's pushing it since most people don't even agree with me there because of how slow Gotenks was around the Earth. You're making the same mistake Trunks made against Cell. Cell admitted Trunks was stronger but it didn't matter at all since he was too slow.
And when did Ichigo travel at the speed of light? What are his feats?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gin_Ichimaru
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The speed at which the sword extends and contracts is originally said to be 500 times the speed of sound (171,500 meters per second), reaching its full length in less than 1/10 of a second, making it the fastest zanpakutō

Ichigo doged that. Not light speed, but faster than all DB characters.
Dragonball era characters moved at the speed of sound; namely King Piccolo. By the time Goku arrives to fight Nappa, I'm pretty sure he can fly/move at light speed; that's what's implied anyway. Roshi wins with a struggle, but only if he's allowed to use his buff form. Otherwise he loses, I guess.
Uh no not really Gotenks circled the earth 5 times in 3 minutes. This is why I hate debating non dbz vs dbz on a dbz forum.
Gotenks; the one who's known to be playful and not take anything seriously. You're seriously implying that a simple humanoid could take on/defeat an experienced martial artist who has trained for hundreds of years. Really.
I'm not implying it I'm saying it. That was the fastest showing of speed in DBZ. I don't think anyone will agree with you even here on a dbz forum that anyone can go faster around the Earth than Gotenks other than U Gohan and Super Buu. Buuhan wasn't fast himself and was around the Earth taking a few minutes. I'm not even sure how far it was but I'll give the benefit of the doubt that it was as large as the Earth when he caught up to Goku.

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