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My power levels list; Dragonball Z
Topic Started: Nov 28 2011, 11:09 AM (2,145 Views)
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how can kid buu be weaker than evil buu when he is the two buus put together? the only thing kid buu is missing from being super buu was absorbing the z fighters powers. evil buu was only his evil side eating fat buu. Making base super buu, who as i recall needed a boost from 2 of the strongest characters alive at the time.

evil buu stole fat buus power not duplicated it. The fusion is what made his power greater, otherwise im pretty sure since he only stole a little more than half of fat buus power that he was even a full ssj3 tier character. They then formed super buu who wasnt that much stronger than goku but enough for him to know it wasnt gonna work. Thats why the base fusion worked so good against buuhan IMO. I mean, goku was only a midtier ssj3 at the time, if he was goku 13 he could have taken super buu pretty easy, maybe even as buutenks.

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Nov 28 2011, 04:55 PM
how can kid buu be weaker than evil buu when he is the two buus put together? the only thing kid buu is missing from being super buu was absorbing the z fighters powers. evil buu was only his evil side eating fat buu. Making base super buu, who as i recall needed a boost from 2 of the strongest characters alive at the time.

evil buu stole fat buus power not duplicated it. The fusion is what made his power greater, otherwise im pretty sure since he only stole a little more than half of fat buus power that he was even a full ssj3 tier character. They then formed super buu who wasnt that much stronger than goku but enough for him to know it wasnt gonna work. Thats why the base fusion worked so good against buuhan IMO. I mean, goku was only a midtier ssj3 at the time, if he was goku 13 he could have taken super buu pretty easy, maybe even as buutenks.

Pure Boo < SSjin 3 Goku < SSjin Gotenks (pre-RoSaT) =< Base Gotenks (post-RoSaT) < SSjin Gotenks (post-RoSaT) < Evil Boo =< SSjin 3 Gotenks

Huge gap. South Kaioshin made Pure Boo a freaking monster.
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Spopovich and Yamu should not be stronger than Raditz. Spopovich fought against Videl who didn't do THAT badly, and she's like <10
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Nov 28 2011, 05:39 PM
Ninjajp247
Nov 28 2011, 04:55 PM
how can kid buu be weaker than evil buu when he is the two buus put together? the only thing kid buu is missing from being super buu was absorbing the z fighters powers. evil buu was only his evil side eating fat buu. Making base super buu, who as i recall needed a boost from 2 of the strongest characters alive at the time.

evil buu stole fat buus power not duplicated it. The fusion is what made his power greater, otherwise im pretty sure since he only stole a little more than half of fat buus power that he was even a full ssj3 tier character. They then formed super buu who wasnt that much stronger than goku but enough for him to know it wasnt gonna work. Thats why the base fusion worked so good against buuhan IMO. I mean, goku was only a midtier ssj3 at the time, if he was goku 13 he could have taken super buu pretty easy, maybe even as buutenks.

Pure Boo < SSjin 3 Goku < SSjin Gotenks (pre-RoSaT) =< Base Gotenks (post-RoSaT) < SSjin Gotenks (post-RoSaT) < Evil Boo =< SSjin 3 Gotenks

Huge gap. South Kaioshin made Pure Boo a freaking monster.
huh? since when is the south kaioshin stronger than ssj3 goku? when he was absorbed he made the biggest impact on buus strength but that was a comparison to when that first happened.

There should be a huge gap between evil buu and ssj3 gotenks, how can evil buu = ssj3 gotenks? ok, maybe before or after the first rosat. But beyond that no way.

Evil buus power was pure, that was the explanation for its potency. Super buu was the epitome of both buu forms together. thats all i got. If evil buu was stronger than gotenks he wouldnt have needed to fuse in the first place. gohan needed a fusion of two supreme ssj3 characters in order to be beaten on top of, south kai, and ultimate piccolo being in there as well.

Its ok to not accurately gauge buus true strength, but since he can absorb other peoples powers its safe to say that him in his pure form is just a being of pure evil magic, and therefore already had immeasurable power. I mean cmon, super buu even with gotenks wasnt really enough to take him (gohan), if piccolo wasnt in there he wouldnt have. goku and vegeta who combined couldnt take gohan all of a sudden gets a huge multiplier from being rivals and in base form kick the living crap out of buuhan. HUH? how can a midlevel ssj3 and an ssj2 acquire enough power to beat out THREE ssj3 top tier level characters rolled into one? Im just saying.
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Nov 28 2011, 09:11 PM
Spopovich and Yamu should not be stronger than Raditz. Spopovich fought against Videl who didn't do THAT badly, and she's like <10
Spopovitch was holding back a whole of lot power and could fly as well as or better than Raditz, so that already puts him at or above 1,300 or 1,400. Spopovitch seemed to be afraid of Yamu, or at least respected him, so his power should be at least equal with him.
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huh? since when is the south kaioshin stronger than ssj3 goku? when he was absorbed he made the biggest impact on buus strength but that was a comparison to when that first happened.

South Kaioshin doesn't need to be stronger than SSjin 3 Goku. It was his trait of obsessing over strength that made Boo into a beast. Boo amplified that trait, just like he amplified Dai Kaioshin's jolly good attitude.
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There should be a huge gap between evil buu and ssj3 gotenks, how can evil buu = ssj3 gotenks? ok, maybe before or after the first rosat. But beyond that no way.

Evil Boo is Super Boo. Pure Evil Boo is the skinny one which I think you're referring to.
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Evil buus power was pure, that was the explanation for its potency. Super buu was the epitome of both buu forms together. thats all i got. If evil buu was stronger than gotenks he wouldnt have needed to fuse in the first place. gohan needed a fusion of two supreme ssj3 characters in order to be beaten on top of, south kai, and ultimate piccolo being in there as well.

Its ok to not accurately gauge buus true strength, but since he can absorb other peoples powers its safe to say that him in his pure form is just a being of pure evil magic, and therefore already had immeasurable power. I mean cmon, super buu even with gotenks wasnt really enough to take him (gohan), if piccolo wasnt in there he wouldnt have.

Gotenks-Boo might not have had the smarts to do as much maniacal damage to Gohan, but he definitely had him beat by a good amount in power, unless you think Piccolo made up a majority of said power...
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goku and vegeta who combined couldnt take gohan all of a sudden gets a huge multiplier from being rivals and in base form kick the living crap out of buuhan. HUH? how can a midlevel ssj3 and an ssj2 acquire enough power to beat out THREE ssj3 top tier level characters rolled into one? Im just saying.

Ask the Kais that made the Potara. It's something we must accept since there is no way around it. You should also take some time to look at this passage I typed up a while ago that demonstrates just how large the gap is between Pure Boo and Evil Boo (Kid Boo and Super Boo).

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Spopovitch was holding back a whole of lot power and could fly as well as or better than Raditz, so that already puts him at or above 1,300 or 1,400. Spopovitch seemed to be afraid of Yamu, or at least respected him, so his power should be at least equal with him.

I realized King Piccolo was the first person with a flight aura in the series, so the lowest Spopo and Yamu could be is at least 260 going by official numbers.
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Nov 29 2011, 02:17 AM
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huh? since when is the south kaioshin stronger than ssj3 goku? when he was absorbed he made the biggest impact on buus strength but that was a comparison to when that first happened.

South Kaioshin doesn't need to be stronger than SSjin 3 Goku. It was his trait of obsessing over strength that made Boo into a beast. Boo amplified that trait, just like he amplified Dai Kaioshin's jolly good attitude.
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There should be a huge gap between evil buu and ssj3 gotenks, how can evil buu = ssj3 gotenks? ok, maybe before or after the first rosat. But beyond that no way.

Evil Boo is Super Boo. Pure Evil Boo is the skinny one which I think you're referring to.
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Evil buus power was pure, that was the explanation for its potency. Super buu was the epitome of both buu forms together. thats all i got. If evil buu was stronger than gotenks he wouldnt have needed to fuse in the first place. gohan needed a fusion of two supreme ssj3 characters in order to be beaten on top of, south kai, and ultimate piccolo being in there as well.

Its ok to not accurately gauge buus true strength, but since he can absorb other peoples powers its safe to say that him in his pure form is just a being of pure evil magic, and therefore already had immeasurable power. I mean cmon, super buu even with gotenks wasnt really enough to take him (gohan), if piccolo wasnt in there he wouldnt have.

Gotenks-Boo might not have had the smarts to do as much maniacal damage to Gohan, but he definitely had him beat by a good amount in power, unless you think Piccolo made up a majority of said power...
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goku and vegeta who combined couldnt take gohan all of a sudden gets a huge multiplier from being rivals and in base form kick the living crap out of buuhan. HUH? how can a midlevel ssj3 and an ssj2 acquire enough power to beat out THREE ssj3 top tier level characters rolled into one? Im just saying.

Ask the Kais that made the Potara. It's something we must accept since there is no way around it. You should also take some time to look at this passage I typed up a while ago that demonstrates just how large the gap is between Pure Boo and Evil Boo (Kid Boo and Super Boo).

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Spopovitch was holding back a whole of lot power and could fly as well as or better than Raditz, so that already puts him at or above 1,300 or 1,400. Spopovitch seemed to be afraid of Yamu, or at least respected him, so his power should be at least equal with him.

I realized King Piccolo was the first person with a flight aura in the series, so the lowest Spopo and Yamu could be is at least 260 going by official numbers.
Putting them around 300 seems alright by me, they would still have had to hold back a whole lot of power against Videl, though. Babidi should logically fit into the void between them and Raditz now, which is about 500-1,200.
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lowered dinosaur to 95
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Why are Babidi, Pui Pui, Yakon, Yamu and Spopovitch all still underrated?
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yakon's pl raised to over 15 billion
spopovich's pl raised to 275
yamu's pl raised to 268
puipui's pl raised to 720,000 (some people have him > frieza 1st form)
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Babidi should be over Yamu and Spopovitch, he defeated them pretty much like Vegeta defeated Cui. Pui Pui should be above that, Kaioshin was afraid of him.
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fixed babidi up a bit, raised puipui's pl to 90 million
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nice write up KP, i agree with just about all of it except for broly in movie 8 being 140 million or whatever, he was at full strength when goku hit him, so either brolys pl is wrong or gokus is.
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Nov 29 2011, 03:35 PM
nice write up KP, i agree with just about all of it except for broly in movie 8 being 140 million or whatever, he was at full strength when goku hit him, so either brolys pl is wrong or gokus is.
I just wouldn't put much stock into figuring out how powerful Goku was when he punched Broly. It was a lucky shot with an unknown variable determining the power, and Broly was never intended to die there anyway according to the movie's producer.
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Nov 29 2011, 02:40 PM
fixed babidi up a bit, raised puipui's pl to 90 million
I wouldn't put Pui Pui under Frieza. Or even Cell.
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