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May have many characters missing, it's not perfect
Edited by brolyeuphyfusion, Dec 3 2011, 12:43 PM.
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| Illustrious | Nov 28 2011, 11:50 AM Post #2 | ||||||||||||||||||
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Read the Manga for heavens sake. Your list is terribly inaccurate. - Piccolo should be above Android #19 and #20. - You didn't list Vegeta and Trunks post ROSAT. - Gohan and Goku should be in their MSSJ states at the start of the Cell Games, Goku at about 50% and Gohan at 25% of his full power. - Perfect Cell powered up twice at the Cell Games, you're only listing the second time on that list. - You haven't given Piccolo enough of a power gain post ROSAT. - Hercule can't be at 53 at any given time, he should be below 10 because he can't tank bullets (which I've explained to you numerous times already). - Super Perfect Cell wasn't stronger than Gohan, they need to be much closer together. - Gohan didn't lose that much power if any at all over those 7 years, he should be much closer to his Cell Games self, or at least ahead of MSSJ Goku at the Cell Games. - Goten and Trunks should be a little lower, but not much. Maybe by about 10% or so. Goten made Gohan sweat, but he didn't exactly match him punch for punch, in my opinion. - Videl can't be at 59, she can't tank bullets, either. Below 10 she goes. - Spopovitch and Yamu need to be higher, they can fly as well as Saiyan era villains, thus making them at least as strong as Raditz, or even as strong as Nappa. - Majin Buu (Just Hatched) should have about 2 suppressions. The first one he comes out of the egg with, (being below Dabura's strength), the second one where he overpowers Dabura and MSSJ Gohan, and the final one where he blows Majin Vegeta away with his ki. - Kid Buu is too close to Super Buu. (I'll probably add more to this list later, but this is all for now). Edited by Illustrious, Nov 28 2011, 11:51 AM.
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as I said it isn't perfect and it may have many chars missing. i only watched the anime and that was many years ago, and i watch kai currently but for some reason it doesn't go past frieza saga. and i'm not the only one who believes kid goku is much higher than 10. some other sites even have hercule at 140, and some people even have videl stronger than chichi. my pl's for them are much lower than those anyway. kid goku has to be more than twice as strong as a farmer. This is from the thread "Crazy Theories" :
I'll create alternate PL's for the ones among you who believe kid goku is at 10 the reason i have kid goku at 78 is because i thought about his feats really hard |
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| Illustrious | Nov 28 2011, 01:05 PM Post #4 | ||||||||||||||||||
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Kid Goku doesn't have to be twice as strong as anything, it's been confirmed that at the start of Dragonball his power level was 10 so it has to be 10. Hercule can't be 140, simply because he can't tank bullets. If he truly was at 140 the gunman's bullets would have had no effect on him. That brings us back to the farmer, he only has to be 1.3x below Goku for it to be a stomp so 10 is completely reasonable. |
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wait, chichi can beat oozaru kid goku? lol sounds too unbelievable and I remember you saying that you have spopovich at 200 in my chichi vs spopovich thread, raditz>>>>>>pl of 200 Edited by brolyeuphyfusion, Nov 28 2011, 01:12 PM.
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| Illustrious | Nov 28 2011, 01:11 PM Post #6 | ||||||||||||||||||
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It's plausible. Goku was a weak Saiyan child, Chi Chi was a strong human adult martial artist; one of the best in the entire world. |
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i made alternate pl's for hercule and videl and they are less than 10, i just kept the old ones for those that believe kid goku>>>10 btw, a pl of 10 can never clear earth lol, goku has failed the saiyan army since birth, even icarus can beat kid goku Edited by brolyeuphyfusion, Nov 28 2011, 01:18 PM.
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| MetaCooler | Nov 28 2011, 01:23 PM Post #8 | ||||||||||||||||||
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Lol at how a dying Goku with a hole in his chest is still nearly 9 times stronger than Farmer with shotgun :P Out of curiosity where did you get that figure from? Apart from that, a good list. EDIT: Why is dying goku stronger than dying Raditz? :P Dinosaur at 4000? based on what? Edited by MetaCooler, Nov 28 2011, 01:27 PM.
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| Illustrious | Nov 28 2011, 01:24 PM Post #9 | ||||||||||||||||||
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Who says Icarus even has a power level of over 200? Where did he demonstrate this ability? And for all the Saiyans knew, everything on Earth may have been below 10. |
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| MetaCooler | Nov 28 2011, 01:29 PM Post #10 | ||||||||||||||||||
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RRRRRAAAAGE: I HATE UUB RRRRRAAAAAAAAGGEEEE: I HATE PAN |
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| Illustrious | Nov 28 2011, 01:31 PM Post #11 | ||||||||||||||||||
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Probably because he believes Gohan stayed at his rage boosted power level of 1,307 and lost against the dinosaur. |
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| MetaCooler | Nov 28 2011, 01:41 PM Post #12 | ||||||||||||||||||
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nothing on Earth (Barring Z fighters) exceeds say, 150 in PL. And that's pushing it. Saying a Dinosaur is 4000 is absurd. It's clearly not the only one of it's species, so essentially what you have is creatures with power comparable to Nappa wandering about? The human race would be wiped out in a day. Dinosaurs are cool and all, but they can't tank rockets. Nor can one of them defeat entire armies. At best I'd give Gohans dinosaur about 95. That makes it 20x as strong as a human and seems about right imo. 4000 would make it 800 times stronger. People may disagree with me on the count of it being 95 but its pure logic based speculation, which is all anyone can provide in this situation. Finally, to anyone who agrees with 4000, where were all these Nappa-DInosaurs in Dragonball? Why was anyone afraid of King Piccolo if the common or garden dinosaur was more than 15x stronger than him? |
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without ki control, pl is just a number. it's like how the knife pierced broly despite the fact that the one who stabbed him was clearly weaker. the dinosaur's pl is nothing more than muscle.if chichi has a pl of 130, and she is only a human without any control of ki, then consider adult chichi vs gohan's dino. both have no ki control, so the only deciding variable is muscle power. do you believe chichi can fight the dinosaur and win? and what's with the rage against uub and pan? |
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| MetaCooler | Nov 28 2011, 02:32 PM Post #14 | ||||||||||||||||||
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Yes I do believe that, because Kid Goku could beat dinosaurs and Chi Chi > Kid Goku at the point when he was beating dinosaurs. As for Uub and Pan, I just don't like them. Pan especially. By your logic, without ki, Earth Dinosaur > Kid Buu and pretty much anything with less mass. So basically everything in dragonball z. Edited by MetaCooler, Nov 28 2011, 02:34 PM.
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| + Pyrus | Nov 28 2011, 04:12 PM Post #15 | ||||||||||||||||||
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Okay, I'll try to explain some of this. Early DBZ ~ Mark Satan and Videl Satan ARE NOT -- can not / will never be -- stronger than 20 at the absolute most for one simple reason: When Bee was shot by the gunmen, Mark charged up there and even though he was very angry, he couldn't even one-shot the two gunman. If I hazarded a guess as to how strong the gunmen were, I'd say it wouldn't be more than Farmer, but it wouldn't be a silly amount lower either; so somewhere in the 4.5-4.9 range. Anyway, Mark had trouble with them (and I use the term "trouble" loosely here), so he can't be more than maybe 15-20% stronger than them at most, which would put him somewhere around 6. Videl when she's introduced is implied to be stronger than him, and then she trains for the Budokai, but she is just a normal human, so her training wouldn't yield much IMO. At most I'd put her between 7 and 10. I do think had she fought the gunmen, she would've been able to deal them considerably more damage than her father. So I hope you realize that having these two at 50+ is ridiculous. ~ Raditz is not 1,200. He's at least 1,300. Toriyama states this in a note to the anime staff, and it's said that the Saibamen rival Raditz in power in the original Japanese manga. Viz changes this to just having them be equal for some ungodly reason. ~ I would lower Yamcha against the Saibaman. He couldn't one-shot it like the others and it wasn't taking much damage from his hits either. ~ Yajirobe should be at least 600. He surpassed Kami along with everybody else. Namek ~ Normal Zarbon shouldn't be that much stronger than Dodoria. They were implied to be close in power. ~ Vegeta after healing from his fight with Zarbon was stated to be "barely" 30,000. He can't be over it. ~ Vegeta after the Ginyu fight should be at least 475,000. He was almost even with Form 1 Freeza. ~ Gohan should be stronger during the Freeza fight IMO. At least 300,000, and then he gets a zenkai that should put him at least 500,000, if not even closer to 1,000,000. Trunks Saga ~ Mecha Freeza should be equal to or a little greater than SSjin Goku on Namek. He stated he could "probably" do it on his own, but with Cold it'd be an assured victory. ~ Vegeta and Piccolo should be stronger than Base Goku. It's implied by Vegeta that he'd beat Goku if Goku didn't have SSjin, and Piccolo is so close to Vegeta in power at that point that Vegeta didn't want to risk fighting him. Android/Cell Saga ~ Piccolo should be at least 30% stronger than Gero. He manhandled him with practically no effort, even after Gero had absorbed energy from him and SSjin Vegeta. ~ Vegeta should be a little stronger than Goku. It's stated by Vegeta and Piccolo. ~ The androids all need to be a lot stronger. #18 effortlessly beat SSjin Vegeta down, and #17 should be at least 10% stronger than her (otherwise why even mention a gap in their strength if they're practically equal?), and #16 should be on a completely different tier. He was equal with Imperfect Cell, who completely tanked a Light Grenade from Piccolo. Piccolo was exhausted at that point from his fight with #17, but his Light Grenade scared the crap out of #17, who couldn't even sense chi, so you know it had to be a big deal. Cell took that blast like a champ and then laid the smackdown on their candy asses. Piccolo's Light Grenade isn't going to amplify his power by a measly amount like 50% or even 2x IMO; it has to be a lot greater. For me it'd be something like: SSjin Vegeta: 60 Imperfect Cell (initial): 70 #18: 100 #17: 110 Piccolo: 115 [120] -- exhausted: 65 -- Light Grenade: 195 Imperfect Cell / #16: 295 #16 is a beast. Just saying. ~ Imperfect Cell when Piccolo encountered him was already stronger than SSjin Vegeta, Goku, and Trunks. Cell Games ~ Gohan needs to be stronger. He had a good lead on Goku, at least 20%. ~ Piccolo should've at least doubled his power in the RoSaT. ~ SSjin Vegeta and Trunks should be around 30-45% stronger than half of SSjin Goku's power. Goku's full power blew them away. ~ Cell (suppressed) should be stronger. He was a step ahead of Goku at all times. ~ SSjin 2 Gohan should be a lot stronger than Perfect Cell. He could've one-shotted him if he felt like it. ~ SPC should at the very most be equal to Gohan. I personally think he's a little below Gohan. Early Boo Saga ~ Pui-Pui should be a good amount stronger than Kaioshin. It's stated by Kaioshin and Babidi that Pui-Pui is stronger. ~ Yakon should also be more powerful than Kaioshin and Pui-Pui by a lot. ~ Goku needs a bigger advantage over Vegeta (pre-Majin). Vegeta sold his soul to get as powerful as Goku. ~ Spopovich and Yamu should be stronger than Raditz at least. ~ Boo right out of his egg is weaker than Dabura and Gohan by a laughable amount. Dabura literally laughed at him and Gohan wondered if it was really the terrible Boo that Kaioshin warned them about. But once Dabura angered him, Boo was so strong that SSjin 2 Goku stated he would need Vegeta's help just to win. ~ Pure Boo (Kid Boo) needs to be a crapton weaker than Evil Boo (Super Boo). Goku was stronger than Pure Boo and shat his pants at the thought of fighting Evil Boo even with Vegeta's aid. End of Z ~ Pan should be stronger than Base Goten and Trunks at least. Edited by Pyrus, Nov 28 2011, 04:15 PM.
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