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Super Perfect Cell vs SSJ2 Vegeta
Topic Started: Nov 22 2011, 11:05 AM (7,250 Views)
CatouttaHell
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Vegeta finger-flicks the pitiful little insect.
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Dec 15 2011, 02:06 AM
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Dec 14 2011, 06:51 PM
Thats not absurd that is a FACT.Main character will always be stronger than anti-hero even if that doesn't make sense,like in DBZ.

Absurd is believing SPC can beat SSJ2 Vegeta

BTW,Einstein said that if you can't say something short you don't understand it well enough,but I guess you think you are smarter than him so OK.
what i was giving was an explanation of my theory, trying to quote einstein doesnt apply here.

The only one NOT understanding much is you.

By the way? einstein was a MATH major not a language arts major, so im not inclined to believe someone who spoke with numbers and created the atomic bomb didnt have to explain anything.

He has an ENTIRE book on HIS theory of relativity, NONE of it proven, and he's a genius?? says you...

BTW: i dont see you calling him a dummy for writing such a large volume on his theory, you KNOW? since he probably doesnt REALLY understand it.

Give me a break, if you cant read you cant learn. People are taught in school how to communicate and explain things, and one thing with such a short explanation is between people who already understand the subject.

So UNLESS you think revising how this goes by saying that its akira making an antihero thing? he could have killed vegeta at any time and created someone else. In fact he did...so get over it.
Now was that so hard ? To divide it into paragraphs and make it more readable ?

CatouttaHell nicely said :lol:
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Vegeta is on par with Kid Gohan and Kid Gohan seems to be a bit stronger than SPC.
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"Vegeta finger-flicks the pitiful little insect"
and dies himself when cell doesnt feel it and IT kamehameha's him.

"this is Vegeta from Buu saga,he wouldn't do stupid mistakes again"
and yet does so.

"he is stronger than Cell"
strength isnt the only factor in battle

"SPC is just a bit stronger than an already beaten up SSJ2 Gohan whose ki was halved as stated..."
gohan was depressed and emotionally beaten. hes in no position to make an accurate guess on how much power he has left. he thinks hes already lost the battle after underestimating cell. cell was about to kill gohan easily and had no trouble in the beamstruggle till goku coached gohan

"Vegeta obliterates Cell"
no its the other way around. vegeta has no defence against IT, taiyoken, kienzan and genki dama.

"And if SPC truly was THAT much above Gohan,he would have killed him right away during kamehameha duel,he wouldn't struggle "
he WAS about to kill him, hence "goodbye gohan"
"I am Lord Freeza, whom none surpass me; no one even comes close!
BURN THIS INTO YOUR MIND! I am emperor of the universe! The likes of you are only fit to grovel at my FEET....or better still TO BE CRUSHED, LIKE AN INSECT AT THe WHIM OF YOUR MASTER!!!- Chris Ayres, Freeza, DBZKAI dub from Funimation
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ugh

a Cell fanbody

SPC was not even at SSJ2 Gohan's lvl,he was barely above him when Gohan's ki was halved,and thats a STATEMENT you can't deny that

Even ssj1 Vegeta could probably take this,sorry
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Dec 18 2011, 11:45 AM
ugh

a Cell fanbody

SPC was not even at SSJ2 Gohan's lvl,he was barely above him when Gohan's ki was halved,and thats a STATEMENT you can't deny that

Even ssj1 Vegeta could probably take this,sorry
Nope, Cell's blast caused Gohan to lose more than half his power; implying that he was near or even above his Gohan's power when he did so.
Edited by Illustrious, Dec 18 2011, 12:47 PM.
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Dec 18 2011, 12:12 PM
DarkCore
Dec 18 2011, 11:45 AM
ugh

a Cell fanbody

SPC was not even at SSJ2 Gohan's lvl,he was barely above him when Gohan's ki was halved,and thats a STATEMENT you can't deny that

Even ssj1 Vegeta could probably take this,sorry
Nope, Cell's blast caused Gohan to lose more than half his power; implying that he was near or even above his Gohan's power when he did so.
lets put it this way

SSJ2 Gohan full power - 100
SSJ2 Gohan halved ki - 50

SPC struggled against ssj2 Gohan with halved ki meaning he is not above 100 definitely,but since he was winning beam struggle he is probably a bit above 50,between 55-70 at MOST

If he WAS stronger than SSJ2 Gohan at full power,he would have won the beam struggle against SSJ2 Gohan with halved ki RIGHT away,in like 1-2 seconds he wouldn't struggle at all



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SP Cell was not weak and he never struggled with Gohan on that last beam struggle. He was actually toying with Gohan and with Vegeta interrupting Cell, Gohan was able to get the advantage and beat him. I do believe Gohan if he was not hurt could have beaten Cell easily. I have SP Cell 80 and Gohan 100. Piccolo stated Vegeta was more powerful than Gohan was 7 years ago...so...yeah Vegeta takes this...
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"SPC was not even at SSJ2 Gohan's lvl,he was barely above him when Gohan's ki was halved,and thats a STATEMENT you can't deny that"
cell was toying and about to kill gohan while smiling and having the time of his life. gohan isnt a reliable source for his ki level. he was depressed, demoralised and inexperienced. goku told gohan he is wrong and just holding back. after the first pep talk, gohan says hes going full force and it STILL IS NOT ENOUGH.

"SPC struggled against ssj2 Gohan "
no he didnt. he overwhelmed him in less than a chapter and was about to kill gohan

" I do believe Gohan if he was not hurt could have beaten Cell easily."
cell said in dragonball kai english subs he is now equal to FP gohan. hell when gohan powered up, cell just smiled and said "this wont go as it did last time". cells not a moron. he knows he has a chance of winning now with IT as his weapon.
"I am Lord Freeza, whom none surpass me; no one even comes close!
BURN THIS INTO YOUR MIND! I am emperor of the universe! The likes of you are only fit to grovel at my FEET....or better still TO BE CRUSHED, LIKE AN INSECT AT THe WHIM OF YOUR MASTER!!!- Chris Ayres, Freeza, DBZKAI dub from Funimation
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"Piccolo stated Vegeta was more powerful than Gohan was 7 years ago...so...yeah Vegeta takes this... "
irrelevant. vegeta doesnt know about any of cells abilities and cell has the hax to catch him off guard.
"I am Lord Freeza, whom none surpass me; no one even comes close!
BURN THIS INTO YOUR MIND! I am emperor of the universe! The likes of you are only fit to grovel at my FEET....or better still TO BE CRUSHED, LIKE AN INSECT AT THe WHIM OF YOUR MASTER!!!- Chris Ayres, Freeza, DBZKAI dub from Funimation
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I think that Goku is on par with Imperfect Cell and Vegeta is like 50% weaker than Goku.
I think that that Gohan is 30% weaker than Vegeta.
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I think that Super Perfect Cell is 35% weaker than that SSjin 2 Vegeta.
I think that SSjin 2 Gohan is 30% weaker than that SSjin 2 Vegeta.
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SSjin 2 Vegeta would stomp so easily.
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Only Majin Vegeta is above Kid Gohan. Pre Majin Vegeta isn't , so the powers are going to be close. SPC is a bit weaker than Gohan, but they are not worlds apart. SPC should be able to put up a fight, but Vegeta is a beast, you give him any advantage and your in big trouble.
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Dec 23 2011, 07:54 PM
Only Majin Vegeta is above Kid Gohan. Pre Majin Vegeta isn't , so the powers are going to be close. SPC is a bit weaker than Gohan, but they are not worlds apart. SPC should be able to put up a fight, but Vegeta is a beast, you give him any advantage and your in big trouble.
SPC should be able to put up a fight, but Vegeta is a beast, you give him any advantage and your in big trouble.

exactly that.Tell me again when did Vegeta lose a 1v1 fight when an opponent had lower PL ? Vegeta is skill-wise Goku lvl,just more brutal

He took a ***** on Cui
Did same to Dodoria
Beaten Zarbon in his base form
Beaten 19 easily,even though 19 can drain ki
Beaten Semi-Perfect Cell,but Toriyama made him do that stupid ***** so Gohan is the one to finish off Cell

And most of those guys were pretty close to Vegeta,like Cui,Dodoria,Zarbon and they were trained warriors,Frieza's elites

Whether you like it or not,Gohan was halved power,and Cell did struggle,if he didn't struggle he'd beat Gohan in 2 seconds

Full power SSJ2 Gohan : 100
SPC : 70-80
Halved ki Gohan : 50

SSJ2 Vegeta : 100-115
Edited by DarkCore, Dec 24 2011, 06:16 PM.
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"Tell me again when did Vegeta lose a 1v1 fight when an opponent had lower PL ?"
goku. vegeta had a massive advantage over everyone with oozaru form yet lost the fight to a bunch of trash.

"Beaten 19 easily,even though 19 can drain ki"
he had prior knowledge of that ability giving him the prep advantage over 19 who thought vegeta would only be at his saiyan saga levels.

"Whether you like it or not,Gohan was halved power,"
gohan isnt a reliable source and goku said gohan was holding back. do the math

"if he didn't struggle he'd beat Gohan in 2 seconds"
it was two seconds. around half a chapter of beamstruggling and cell was just laughing his ***** off the whole time

"SSjin 2 Vegeta would stomp so easily."
no he wont
"I am Lord Freeza, whom none surpass me; no one even comes close!
BURN THIS INTO YOUR MIND! I am emperor of the universe! The likes of you are only fit to grovel at my FEET....or better still TO BE CRUSHED, LIKE AN INSECT AT THe WHIM OF YOUR MASTER!!!- Chris Ayres, Freeza, DBZKAI dub from Funimation
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Stop pulling things out of context.He WON vs Goku 1v1,he lost vs all other Z fighters after kamehameha,spirit bomb and Gohan's oozaru when he was worn down that he could barely crawl

All other things you wrote is pure illogical bull***** that you pulled out of your *****,you try to change the facts given by Toriyama himself

Facts are : He couldn't beat halved ki Gohan fast,and in the end he even lost
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