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Which form of Buu can SSJ3 Sun Goku go toe-to-toe with?
Topic Started: Nov 21 2011, 04:55 AM (1,136 Views)
Ajith
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I mean SSJ3 Sun Goku (without the power drainin) and goes toe-to-toe with Buu. In another words, a fight to the death.

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* Son Goku

Anyways.. It was stated that he could have defeated Fat Buu, so that one is a given. He defeated Kid Buu, so obviously he could do it again. Super Buu is a bit more complicated. He would be close to Super Buu, but I don't think that he would be able to defeat him. There is no way that he could beat Buutenks or Buuhan, though.

1) Fat Buu
2) Kid Buu
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The only ones he could beat are probably Pure Buu, Fat Buu, Mr Buu and Pure Evil Buu. He would be roflstomped by the rest.

Of course with no energy drain he could get a full power Ki blast in and wipe any of those forms away.
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^^^^

So you're basically saying that he couldn't beat Kid Buu even though he beat him? *scratches head*
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I think Pure Buu = Kid Buu. People call them different things.
Yeah, so Fat Buu, The evil buu, grey thing, Mr Buu and Kid Buu. The rest stomp him.
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Nov 21 2011, 05:01 AM
* Son Goku

Anyways.. It was stated that he could have defeated Fat Buu, so that one is a given. He defeated Kid Buu, so obviously he could do it again. Super Buu is a bit more complicated. He would be close to Super Buu, but I don't think that he would be able to defeat him. There is no way that he could beat Buutenks or Buuhan, though.

1) Fat Buu
2) Kid Buu
I agree. But then, I think SSJ3 Goku also has the capability of going toe-to-toe with Super Buu...O.k..O.k its complicated

In both instances, the manga & the anime, after Goku's came back to life, (Old Kai giving his life bla..bla..bla), it was shown that he went SSJ3 as Buutenks charged towards him..

While they fought in the anime, (which caused many inconsistencies among the fans), in the manga, Buutenks stopped before he could do anything..Gotenks fusion defused..

This is the point that we should take note. SSJ3 Goku just stood in front Super Buu (with Piccolo absorbed) and kept going on about his power drop. (at least in the original version). Goku even reverted back to his base form, as though he felt like Buu was nothin for him, which in this case was Buu (with Piccolo absorbed). Many might say that he was confident of Ultimate Gohan finishin off Buu, (Gohan was looking for the Potara earings somewhere down there) but still, that was never one of the norms/charcterizations of Goku since his childhood days.. Goku looked as if he was utterly confident of himself, and given Super Buu's expressions, it can be said that besides Fat Buu, EVil Buu, or even Kid Buu, Sun Goku was capable of even defeating Super Buu, except Buutenks and Buuhan..
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Yeah, I think Coco's got it right: Goku should be able to beat Pure Evil Buu and Mr. Buu for certain, Fat Buu without the power drain, and Kid Buu maybe. He needed Spirit Bomb hax last time, but a godly Super Kamehameha might be strong enough to give him the win.

Goku later stated that Shin Buu would kill him and Vegeta while in Shin Buu's head. Shin Buu > SSJ3 Goku, so unless Piccolo weakened him, I don't see how Goku could beat him. Someone (with really tiny powerlevel gaps) could make a case for Goku staving Shin Buu off, however. He was never stated to be totally outclassed, and with a decreasing/ungodly small SSJ multiplier, he could be somewhat comparable with Shin Buu, especially if you have SSJ3 Gotenks >/>> Shin Buu.
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He can go against Fat Buu, Kid Buu, Mr Buu and probably skinny/grey buu.
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Well, Good Buu had a pretty even fight with Evil Buu (Anime wise) but Good Buu wasn't able to beat him, and Good Buu + Evil Buu = Fat Buu (Evil Buu + Good Buu = Super Buu) and Goku could have beaten Fat Buu as SS3, so that means Goku SS3 would be able to beat Good Buu and Evil Buu aswell. But, I don't think Goku SS3 could beat Kid Buu without the Spirit bomb (IMO!) and I have base Super Buu just a tad weaker than Kid Buu, I would have them the same in power but because Kid Buu is completely insane, I give him a small power boost. However, if I have Kid Buu a bit stronger than Super Buu, and Goku SS3 can't beat Kid Buu without the Spirit bomb, Goku SS3 wouldn't be able to beat Super Buu without a Spirit bomb ether. And both Buutenks and Buuhan would one-punch stomp SS3 Goku. so there you have it.

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ObsessiveFanGirl
Nov 21 2011, 05:03 AM
^^^^

So you're basically saying that he couldn't beat Kid Buu even though he beat him? *scratches head*
Genkidama beat Chibi Buu.
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I think Goku would be able to defeat Kid Buu, Fat Buu, Mr Buu and Evil Buu. Super Buu and all his incarnations would easily defeat Goku, though.
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Nov 21 2011, 05:25 AM
ObsessiveFanGirl
Nov 21 2011, 05:01 AM
* Son Goku

Anyways.. It was stated that he could have defeated Fat Buu, so that one is a given. He defeated Kid Buu, so obviously he could do it again. Super Buu is a bit more complicated. He would be close to Super Buu, but I don't think that he would be able to defeat him. There is no way that he could beat Buutenks or Buuhan, though.

1) Fat Buu
2) Kid Buu
I agree. But then, I think SSJ3 Goku also has the capability of going toe-to-toe with Super Buu...O.k..O.k its complicated

In both instances, the manga & the anime, after Goku's came back to life, (Old Kai giving his life bla..bla..bla), it was shown that he went SSJ3 as Buutenks charged towards him..

While they fought in the anime, (which caused many inconsistencies among the fans), in the manga, Buutenks stopped before he could do anything..Gotenks fusion defused..

This is the point that we should take note. SSJ3 Goku just stood in front Super Buu (with Piccolo absorbed) and kept going on about his power drop. (at least in the original version). Goku even reverted back to his base form, as though he felt like Buu was nothin for him, which in this case was Buu (with Piccolo absorbed). Many might say that he was confident of Ultimate Gohan finishin off Buu, (Gohan was looking for the Potara earings somewhere down there) but still, that was never one of the norms/charcterizations of Goku since his childhood days.. Goku looked as if he was utterly confident of himself, and given Super Buu's expressions, it can be said that besides Fat Buu, EVil Buu, or even Kid Buu, Sun Goku was capable of even defeating Super Buu, except Buutenks and Buuhan..
The big difference is Toei didn't know what they wanted to do with Goku in the anime, while Toriyama clearly knew what he was doing.

Goku couldn't beat Evil Boo no matter how hard he tried. Goku is a lot weaker than Gotenks and Gotenks was a bit ahead of Evil Boo at best. Goku is a scrub in the Boo arc. Nothing at all speaks for Goku being able to beat Evil Boo.

And that's the bottom line because Stone Cold said so.

As for me, Goku beats Innocent, Pure Evil, Majin, and Pure Boo.
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Nov 21 2011, 06:34 AM
And that's the bottom line because Stone Cold said so.
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