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| Krillin(android saga) vs final form frieza(2%) | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Nov 20 2011, 04:19 PM (1,085 Views) | |
| Muhahahaha | Nov 20 2011, 04:19 PM Post #1 |
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Who wins? |
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| Muhahahaha | Nov 20 2011, 04:56 PM Post #2 |
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That's how I see it: trunks saga 200,000 krillin(saiyan saga progressing) 1,600,000 Frieza 2,800,00 |
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| Illustrious | Nov 20 2011, 05:02 PM Post #3 |
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Um, what? Frieza stomps. |
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| + supersaqer | Nov 20 2011, 05:54 PM Post #4 |
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Krillin wins/curbstomps. I have him at 2,500,000 - 4,500,000 at that point and Frieza 2,400,000 |
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| + Pyrus | Nov 20 2011, 06:00 PM Post #5 |
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Freeza stomps the yard with this fella. |
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Nov 20 2011, 06:02 PM Post #6 |
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Badabing!
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All the Earthlings molest him. |
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| + Clearin | Nov 20 2011, 06:19 PM Post #7 |
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I think it'd be a good fight. While I pretty much threw away all my power levels in favour of just comparisons instead I think I had Krillin at about 3 million in the Android arc. Edit: I meant a bit below 3 million. Edited by Clearin, Nov 20 2011, 06:20 PM.
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Nov 20 2011, 06:20 PM Post #8 |
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lol so now you are comparing Krilin to Frieza and I'm supposed to take this seriously ? |
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| SSJ Ranulf | Nov 20 2011, 07:11 PM Post #9 |
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Goku stated that Gohan would be of use against the Androids, and then sent Gohan to help Yajirobe rather than Krillin. Although one could say it was out of concern for his son, that feels out of character for Goku to me. Thus, at the very least, Krillin should be near Gohan, who is stated to be helpful against the Androids. Krillin sensed Tenshinhan and Yamcha when Goku, himself and the others were gathering to face the Androids, and described both their powers as "huge". Thus, it seem illogical to say Ten >>>>> Yamcha, as Krillin likely wouldn't have classed them so closely together under the blanket category of huge. Yamcha later felt that he was the person who would be of the least help against the Androids and took Goku back to his home when he was sick: Krillin didn't disagree with him. This is very strong evidence that Krillin > Yamcha, and Krillin should be fairly close to Tenshinhan at the very least (if not above him, which I personally don't believe). Android 19 mistook Yamcha for a Goku after training for years, and Android 20 called him a good source of energy. Note that, unlike Cell, Androids 19 and 20 did not bother stealing regular people's energy, but they casually destroyed people. The argument that Yamcha was at 5,000, and that was worth 1,000 people is illogical as 20 never showed any interest in regular people. IMO, if Yamcha wasn't something like at least 10% of Android 20's power, he wouldn't be worth considering. Tenshinhan saw Goku punch Android 20 and do nothing, and didn't freak out. Instead, he kept up with base Goku and weighted Piccolo to go fight with the Androids. Much later, when he saw SSJ Vegeta getting pounded down, he went to join in a battle with the likes of PIccolo and SSJ Trunks, and while he was the last one to arrive at the battle, he didn't show up after it was over with, but right in the middle of it. When Gero was left alone, after absorbing Vegeta's Big Bang Attack, he was in need of more energy. The thought occurred to him that if he drained weighted Piccolo (who was heavily suppressed), Ten, Krillin, and Gohan, he could defeat Vegeta. He should have a solid grasp on how strong weighted Piccolo is, considering he had a brief match with Piccolo, and we know that he can detect energy, do to the fact that he could tell that Piccolo was > Ten, Krillin, or Gohan. The point of all this: I don't think 2% of Frieza (2,400,000 - 3,000,000) would be able to hold any of these claims: being useful against the Androids, having a "huge" power in the era of Super Saiyans, being a good source of energy to Android 20 (who many people consider > Mecha Frieza), not being totally left in the dust by Piccolo and base Goku, and being a noticeable fraction of SSJ Vegeta's power. IMO, Krillin kills this Frieza, then wishes him back so he can go to 50% of his power, and then beats that Frieza with some considerable difficulty, but without a huge risk of losing. |
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| + Pyrus | Nov 20 2011, 07:21 PM Post #10 |
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Goku was sick and huffing just from flying, and Piccolo was suppressed, especially when #20 drained him. SSjin Vegeta: 500,000,000 ~ 1/3: 165,000,000 165,000,000 / 4 = 41,250,000 That'd be assuming he'd absorb equally from each of them, which I don't buy. I think he'd get most of the energy from Piccolo, who was clearly far superior to the others on that list. Edited by Pyrus, Nov 20 2011, 07:21 PM.
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| SSJ Ranulf | Nov 20 2011, 09:52 PM Post #11 |
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Yes, sick Goku was sick and tired from flying. Ten was not. IMO, Ten > Sick Goku, and Sick Goku >> Yardrat Goku. Of course, I use a VERY small SSJ multiplier (x5 lol), so that might be why we disagree. I agree, Piccolo was above them. But I see no reason to say that suppressed Piccolo blew them out of the water. I usually have suppressed Piccolo on par with Base Goku, and Ten not far behind. I don't think Vegeta was reduced to 1/3 of his power, and I don't see why 20 would be counting on that. Vegeta got a senzu: I think 20 was planing on beating full power Vegeta (of course, he had no reason to know Vegeta's full power, just that SSJ Vegeta >> A19 + Goku's Energy). Also, I only have #20 and #19 getting half of the energy that they drain. So if Piccolo loses 20,000,000 units of power, #20 gains 10,000,000. The reason for this is because Goku's Kamehameha must have been pretty strong, at least equal to his Sick power, which should be above his Yardrat power (unless he was so sick it was under it by that point, which is possible), and the numbers get to bloated if I have #19 getting a boost that massive. As for #20, it could work something like this (of course, it could work under about a million permutations, this is just similar to what I use): SSJ Vegeta: 500 -20's hopes: 400 #20: 200 -Yamcha/Vegeta's Energy: 280 -Theoretically Everyone's Energy: 430 Piccolo (Suppressed): 120 Ten: 60 Krillin: 60 Gohan: 60 Point is, Piccolo being far above them doesn't mean that they wouldn't be good sources of energy. He also made it fairly clear, as I remember, that he thought he needed all of their energy to defeat Vegeta for sure: not that he only needed it from, say, Piccolo and Gohan. And of course, in addition to some of the other points I raised about them being around someone who would be useful against the Androids, being considered to have huge ki's, being considered to be good sources of Energy for the Androids, and not being horrified by (Sick) Base Goku failing to hurt 20 makes me sure that, at the very least, Krillin would waste 2% Frieza. I just happen to think he'd also waste 50% Frieza, but each to his own. Edited by SSJ Ranulf, Nov 20 2011, 10:07 PM.
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Nov 20 2011, 10:03 PM Post #12 |
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Tenshinhan states that SSjin Goku was in a different dimension than both himself and Piccolo so the ki that Piccolo was displaying couldn't have been that much. Depending on your gap between c20 and SSjin Vegeta, they should all be at least half of that imo. There is no way around Krillin, Tenshinhan and Gohan all at least rivalling the base Saiyans. I originally got this theory from a member off of Daizex and it holds water. My numbers; Vegeta- 40,000,000 SSjin- 400,000,000 Goku- 39,000,000 SSjin- 390,000,000 Sick SSjin- 350,000,000 (and falling) Piccolo- 350,000,000 Resting Ki- 100,000,000 Android 20- 190,000,000 post absorptions- 305,000,000 Tenshinhan- 45,000,000 Krillin- 36,000,000 Gohan- 30,000,000 Edited by Cocoman, Nov 20 2011, 10:07 PM.
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| Kruegs Outlandish | Nov 20 2011, 10:05 PM Post #13 |
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Krillin stomping Frieza, Pyro? |
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| + Pyrus | Nov 20 2011, 10:10 PM Post #14 |
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I actually don't even remember what I going for in my post. I'll have to review it and Biz's post when I return home. |
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| SSJ Ranulf | Nov 20 2011, 10:13 PM Post #15 |
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Well... Biz's post wasn't that deep (lol worthy, to be sure), but I imagine that with some creative thinking you could find evidence that Base Goku (Sick) > Tien * Yamcha + Krillin. ![]() Hope you've got a safe drive home. |
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