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Base Gogeta (The Kid Buu Saga) Vs. SSJ3 Goku (The Kid Buu Saga)
Topic Started: Nov 19 2011, 08:51 AM (2,874 Views)
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DarkCore
Nov 22 2011, 01:09 AM
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Nov 20 2011, 09:26 PM
I'm going to say SSJ3 Goku wins, as I don't think base Gotenks was quite as strong as most people do: stronger than an SSJ2 post ROSAT, yes, but I think Piccolo was counting on him having much power in reserve. And I think post ROSAT Goten and Trunks are fairly close to Goku and Vegeta, so Base Goegeta would be, IMO, at about Fat Buu level.
hell no dude,Goku and Vegeta are MUCH stronger than Goten and Trunks,FFS even 18 beaten them BOTH in tournament,now I know they gotten stronger but still...
That was filler, and even then she didn't beat them.
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Gotenks had to go SSJ3 to be on Super Buu's lvl

Vegito in his base form was about equal to BUUHAN,and Gogeta is about Vegito's lvl

Base Gogeta > Gotenks SSJ3 > Goku SSJ3

Goku SSJ3 = fat buu
Gotenks SSJ3 = Super buu
Base Gogeta/Vegito = Buuhan

thats how you compare them,more or less
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Nov 22 2011, 02:09 PM
Gotenks had to go SSJ3 to be on Super Buu's lvl

Vegito in his base form was about equal to BUUHAN,and Gogeta is about Vegito's lvl

Base Gogeta > Gotenks SSJ3 > Goku SSJ3

Goku SSJ3 = fat buu
Gotenks SSJ3 = Super buu
Base Gogeta/Vegito = Buuhan

thats how you compare them,more or less
Okay? But how does that negate what I said?
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Nov 22 2011, 02:09 PM
Vegito in his base form was about equal to BUUHAN,and Gogeta is about Vegito's lvl
Neither of these things are facts. Vegetto is only equal to Buuhan in the anime, in the Manga he went straight to super saiyan and no one can know just how strong Gogeta is compared to Vegetto.
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Nov 22 2011, 07:07 PM
no one can know just how strong Gogeta is compared to Vegetto.
I just use the hypothetical Goku and Gohan fusion as a comparison.
Goku suggests that he would need SSjin to take on Buu if he fused with him and Elder Kaioshin says to him that in base alone the Potara fusion would stomp him.
I think that's as close as it gets to a Potara base = fusion dance SSjin statement.
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Wasn't Gohan hella strong from the get go anyway? A base-state Vegito is superstomped by base Gokhan since Gohan was at least "comparable" to Buutenks. I don't think base-state Gogeta can be compared to Gokhan in terms of stomping.
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Nov 23 2011, 02:15 AM
Wasn't Gohan hella strong from the get go anyway? A base-state Vegito is superstomped by base Gokhan since Gohan was at least "comparable" to Buutenks. I don't think base-state Gogeta can be compared to Gokhan in terms of stomping.
Probably depends on how big you think the rival boost is. Some people think it's huge, others don't. I don't think it's that big as it seemed like a bit of a throw away line,something that wasn't too big of a deal but did contribute. People will interpret it differently though.
It doesn't mean that you can't use those statements though. Goku said dance would need SSJ, Old Kai said potara needs base only. So, base Potara is at least as strong as SSJ dance if not stronger.
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Remember that Gohan would need to suppress down to Goku's level with the fusion dance.
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Nov 23 2011, 02:50 AM
Remember that Gohan would need to suppress down to Goku's level with the fusion dance.
but i thought we were talking about potara.

(Dance) SSJ3 Gohank would probably be weakling-guy compared to (Potara) base/ultimate Gokhan, but that's because Gohan is beast to begin with and Goku isn't even comparable.

So Gohank/Gokhan is like Goku/Gohan. It's completely different with Vegeta and Goku, were they are both nearly equal in power.
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Nov 19 2011, 09:58 AM
Base Gogeta wins IMO. I think he's somewhere in between Gotenks-Boo and Ultimate Gohan.
even if you brought goku movie 13 into the mix, i dont think he would be that much stronger than super janemba who was clobbered by super gogeta, then again gogeta went super automatically to fight super janemba, but i think that was the point as he literally destroyed him with ease. If gogeta can beat janemba in base form then he can take goku movie 13. Who by the way is the only incarnation of a MSSJ3.
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Gogeta wins. He's a near equal to Vegeito imo.
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Thought this was SSj3 Gotenks vs Base Gogeta.. saw KP say Gogeta owns.. and i was like wut.

Gogeta > Goku

SSj3 Gotenks > Base Gogeta
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But power wise at the time, gogeta in base form wasnt much stronger than super janemba, thus him going ssj, In ssj he rolled janemba like a fresh pretzel whereas goku could barely hold his own at the time, which is why i brought up movie 13 goku who is proven to be as strong or stronger than ultimate gohan whom we all KNOW could take base gogeta. Not to mention he had no energy strain. So IMO, if gogeta in base form COULD take out super janemba no matter how slim the margin? that would put him in the leagues of super buu and super janemba who would be anninilated by hirudegarn easy. Putting him in movie 13 gokus range of power. But as it stands IN the majin buu era? ssj3 goku got stomped on by BOTH janembas and super janemba is equal to super buu IMO, gogeta as it stands in base form is the same as vegito in the anime (cuz only super vegito was in the manga), meaning that it comes all the way around to ssj3 goku getting smashed in by base gogeta, unless he's goku movie 13.
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Super Vegetto > Boohan > Base Vegetto >=< Bootenks > Ultimate Gohan >> SSJ3 Gotenks >= Super Boo >>>>>Base Gotenks > Base Gogeta
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I'd say Buutenks is a little stronger than Gohan
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