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Chiautzo (End of Z) Vs. 100% Frieza (Frieza Saga)
Topic Started: Nov 15 2011, 11:30 AM (591 Views)
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Who would win? By feats, power scaling and hyperbole.
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Chaozu doesn't have any feats IMO. The only thing he was able to do was beat the ginyus but that's filler so...


Id say even 1st form freiza would take this.
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I think Freeza roflstomps. I don't have any human getting that high, much less Chaozu.
Edited by Clearin, Nov 15 2011, 03:18 PM.
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He stops helping by the Cell saga, that shows he's basically worthless and won't get all that stronger.
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I don't know... 7 years is a looo~ng time and I think Tenshinhan is multi-fold Freeza's strength at this point.
But Chaozu? Maybe with his magic but I'm not sure. If his magic has powered up enough I would say there's a possibility.
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I wish you'd said Buu saga, because then I'd feel confident that Chiautzo would lose.

My opinion is that, during the Android saga, Chiautzo should be 1/3 or less than the weakest Z fighter to show up (Yamcha), as Tien was sure he could be of no help at all. I don't have the humans (or base Saiyans) beating out Frieza that early on, so I'd have Chiautzo at, being extremely generous to him, 20% of Frieza (more like 10%, to be honest).

During the Buu saga, I'd have him ~50% of Frieza. After 10 more years, if he's been training with Tien the entire time, I suppose I'd give Chao the win. It might not be super easy, but I think he'd take him by that point.
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Ah, Chaozu gets tossed into a meatgrinder. I don't have him surpassing even Freeza's first form.
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At end of DBZ i have Chiautzu at max maybe at 50% Frieza.
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I don't really think he has a chance. Chiatzou's powerlevel is just way to low. Tien couldn't even let him fight the androids with the Z fighters, I think. It just proves he is just to weak. But no matter , he will not stand a chance.
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He gets slaughtered.

They didn't want him fighting the saiyans, as Tien told him to stay back. Yajirobe was stronger despite being lazy and not having ki control.

He was flat out not allowed to fight the androids after 3 years trainging with Tien or even go to the Cell Games as a spectator.

Guy just has far less potential than the others. If you use filler you can say he is stronger than Guldo (you also have to take the fact the others said good decision leaving him behind into account as well if you do when they met to fight the androids), but I don't think the 11 years between King Kais place and Buu arriving changed him dramatically like the others. In fact I doubt he was stronger than Vegeta back when he first arrived after King Kai trained him. I think he maxed out in the 6 figures department and would lose to Frieza in his regular first form with the 530k max

His magic also wasn't Supreme Kai or Guldo level haxed in Z to the point it could hurt or bother someone stronger than him at any time
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Why many people underestimate the humans? Its true that they are shown to be weaker than the Saiyans and Piccolo, but at the end of DBZ all of them can destroy 100% Frieza at their base while holding back, why the humans couldnt even be at Frieza's 50% - 100% tier by that time (taking into account that Tien and Chiaotzu were the only humans that continued training)?.
I have myself Tien at Semi Perfect Cell at his peak.
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Well apparently you are overestimating them too much. I'm pretty sure Tien could have defeated 100 % Frieza but I don't really think Chiatzou can't, he is just to weak.
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Nov 16 2011, 06:52 PM
Why many people underestimate the humans? Its true that they are shown to be weaker than the Saiyans and Piccolo, but at the end of DBZ all of them can destroy 100% Frieza at their base while holding back, why the humans couldnt even be at Frieza's 50% - 100% tier by that time (taking into account that Tien and Chiaotzu were the only humans that continued training)?.
I have myself Tien at Semi Perfect Cell at his peak.
People aren't underestimating Krillin, Tien, and Yamcha!

They are underestimating Chiaotzu who was by far the weakest and had the least potential. He went into the saiyan fight against Tiens wishes and was weaker than Yajirobe. His magic had no effect on people stronger than him in z. His only victory in filler was versus Guldo who was weaker than both Gohan and Krillin individually, but unlike Chioutzu his magic powers worked on people stronger than him. He was let behind in the android battle and in filler the othe z fighters all said good acknowledging he was weak, but Goku actually asked Yajirobe who can't fly or control ki to fight with them. He wasn't even allowed to watch the Cell Games at ringside like Tien and Yamcha.

He spent the next 7 years training sure, but in terms of the manga and filler he did nothing. Krillin trained 3-4 years afterward to he finally had his dream of a wife and kid; he was thought to be the strongest of the human/earthling z fighters and was able to slice Kid Buu in half in filler. Tien in the manga was called a master and at least had he power to use the neo tri beam without straining his life force to deflect a blast from Buu. Yamcha was said to give up fighting, and in filler Krillin said it was hard to get him to train hard routinely but he still did was brought to other world as a plan b to defend earth and he owned Olibu without actually being touched.

It aint about underestimating or overestimating the main 3 human/earthling z fighters in yamcha, Tien, and Krillin. It is about evaluating Chiaotzu who they left behind in the dust way back at Kamis place and who had less natural potential to tap into than Yajorobe in the manga and anime. His magic is useless in Z and has no effect, and he was flat out sidelined or told to sit his behind down and away from the battlefield while the others aren't. That speaks volumes about how weak he was in comparison and how far back from the other members of his race on the team he was, let alone Piccolo and the saiyans
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