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| Did Vegeta really know Bardock? | |
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| Frostmourne | Nov 8 2011, 04:21 PM Post #1 |
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Didn't Vegeta mention that Goku's dad was a brilliant scientist and he created the full moonlight thing? Is it possible he knew Bardock because of his old comrade , Raditz? |
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| Copy_Ninja | Nov 8 2011, 04:59 PM Post #2 |
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Bardock was just low level trash to Vegeta. The only reason he worked with Raditz was because he didn't have much of a choice and even then it was clear who's boss. Plus, Vegeta was only a kid when Bardock was around, so he wouldn't have worked with him or anything like that. That line was just in the Ocean Dub, I have no idea what made them put that in. Nothing remotely like it is included in any other dub. |
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| Fourth Doctor Who | Nov 8 2011, 05:59 PM Post #3 |
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Didn't Vegeta say to Son Goku before he died "Your father and mine are destroyed along with the planet..." something along the lines. |
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| SS4 YogE | Nov 8 2011, 07:31 PM Post #4 |
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Like Luke said, that scientist line is bologna. But for fun, if it was really part of the story... Bardock was gaining some notoriety on Planet Vegeta because of what happened on Kanassa, if i'm not mistaken, so perhaps Vegeta heard the name around the water cooler. But even if he had, it's unlikely he would have been able to associate him as Goku's father. Also, if Raditz was a low class warrior like Goku, he too would likely have been sent away as a baby. How long would his mission have taken? I have no idea, but it was probably long enough to have A.) escaped Planet Vegeta's destruction, and B.) never known his father. Before he died, Vegeta did remind Goku that his parents had been killed in the destruction of Planet Vegeta, but I think he was just trying to pump up Goku by making it personal between he and Frieza (DBZ Kai version.) Edited by SS4 YogE, Nov 8 2011, 07:31 PM.
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| "Meaningless, huh?! What do you know of meaningless?! Spend most of your life ruled by another, watch your race dwindle to a handful, and then tell me what has more meaning that your own strength. I have in me the blood of a Saiyan prince; he is nothing but a joke, yet I've had to watch him surpass me in strength, my destiny thrown to the wayside. He... he's even saved my life as if I were a helpless child. He has stolen my honor, and his debts... must be paid!" | |
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| Mihawk | Nov 8 2011, 07:38 PM Post #5 |
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Vegeta most likely did not know Bardock personally or he would have made constant references to him. But I really think there needs to be a back story done more than just a 3 part debacle about Bardock, King Vegeta, etc. |
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| SS4 YogE | Nov 8 2011, 07:53 PM Post #6 |
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Saiyan backstory ftw! I find it more interesting than a lot of the main story line past the Frieza arc. |
| "Meaningless, huh?! What do you know of meaningless?! Spend most of your life ruled by another, watch your race dwindle to a handful, and then tell me what has more meaning that your own strength. I have in me the blood of a Saiyan prince; he is nothing but a joke, yet I've had to watch him surpass me in strength, my destiny thrown to the wayside. He... he's even saved my life as if I were a helpless child. He has stolen my honor, and his debts... must be paid!" | |
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| freexa | Nov 8 2011, 08:28 PM Post #7 |
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Vegeta probably knew of Bardock from stories from his dad and/or stories from other Saiyans, he may have even seen him a few times, but I doubt he ever met him face to face. |
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| SS4 YogE | Nov 8 2011, 09:48 PM Post #8 |
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Are you sure that you aren't thinking of the very original Funi Dub, the one that first aired on Toonami back in the day? I remember hearing it once as a kid, but never again. Anyhow, boo-hiss to such senseless additions, subtractions and alterations to the original dialogue. Kai all day. |
| "Meaningless, huh?! What do you know of meaningless?! Spend most of your life ruled by another, watch your race dwindle to a handful, and then tell me what has more meaning that your own strength. I have in me the blood of a Saiyan prince; he is nothing but a joke, yet I've had to watch him surpass me in strength, my destiny thrown to the wayside. He... he's even saved my life as if I were a helpless child. He has stolen my honor, and his debts... must be paid!" | |
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| Ascended Vegeta Aijin | Nov 8 2011, 09:52 PM Post #9 |
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The Ascended one
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Vegeta probably knew OF him, but didn't actually KNOW him. |
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| Ani-Nation | Nov 8 2011, 10:36 PM Post #10 |
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That line was only said in the Ocean Dub. Just a heads up The original English dub isn't what I would call accurate. |
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| * Yu Narukami | Nov 8 2011, 10:48 PM Post #11 |
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Izanagi!
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Yes, he did know him. Bardock was renowned on Planet Vegeta. Legends would speak of how he was an average fighter, but a BRILLIANT SCIENTIST! Lol, kidding aside, Vegeta probably only heard of him through gossip on Planet Vegeta and never knew him personally. |
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| Noir | Nov 8 2011, 10:53 PM Post #12 |
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The prince would never be in the presence of that low level trash.. HEIL VEGETA! |
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| SS4 YogE | Nov 8 2011, 11:27 PM Post #13 |
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I know this is kind of off topic, but was that Ocean Dub ever aired on Cartoon Network? I guess I mistook it for an old Funi Dub because I recognized that line from what I had believed to be the first time I ever saw DBZ on Toonami. Did Funimation not do it the fist time around? I'm confused because I didn't think Ocean Dub ever made it US airwaves. Edited by SS4 YogE, Nov 8 2011, 11:28 PM.
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| "Meaningless, huh?! What do you know of meaningless?! Spend most of your life ruled by another, watch your race dwindle to a handful, and then tell me what has more meaning that your own strength. I have in me the blood of a Saiyan prince; he is nothing but a joke, yet I've had to watch him surpass me in strength, my destiny thrown to the wayside. He... he's even saved my life as if I were a helpless child. He has stolen my honor, and his debts... must be paid!" | |
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| SirParagon | Nov 8 2011, 11:30 PM Post #14 |
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Sparking!
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The brilliant scientist line always makes me giggle. Not sure why Ocean felt the need to bend the mythos |
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| Ani-Nation | Nov 8 2011, 11:31 PM Post #15 |
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Ocean did the first 50 something episodes for the US then Funimation decided to take over with their own in house dub. Ocean came back around the Android saga for parts of Europe. |
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