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<rant/> Before you start: this is a rant. A pretty long one. I'm bored, and am having a bad day, so instead of ranting about politics or something like that, I'm going to rant about one of my favorite animes. OK, so my logic goes as follows: A majority of DBZ moves fall into at least one of these three categories: Overrated, underrated, or misused. Some of you may say I'm misusing the word misuse (lol), but what I mean by misuse is that some characters could really use their moves better. So without further ado: Multi-form technique (Shishin no Ken) Category: Misused The multi-form is a technique in which the user splits his body into four. However, there is a disadvantage: each body is 4 times weaker than the original user, so in the end, the power level stays the same. So here is what I ask: what other technique can you use to raise your power level to 4 times stronger than it is? That's right: the kaio-ken. So why not use them both? Now some might argue that there is a problem with this: there are four people who have performed the multi-form in the series. These are Tien, Cell, Gogeta, and Piccolo, but only 2 of them can perform the kaio-ken (Cell and Gogeta). However, it is not very difficult to teach someone else how to perform the kaio-ken. Also, some might say that performing the kaio-ken x4 and the multi-form still gives you the same power boost of x4, but using the kaioken alone doesn't give the added advantage of having 4 bodies. Kamehameha Category: Overrated Okay, right off the bat: The Kamehameha has never killed any major villain in DBZ or DBGT. (EDIT: I just realized that I completely forgot about Cell and Baby) Secondly, the kamehameha takes quite a bit time to charge up. Probably long enough for the enemy to swoop in and kick you in the face repeatedly. I don't really know what else to say about it. Solar Flare (Taiyo-ken) Category: Underrated and Misused The Solar Flare is a move in which the user puts his hands on his forehead, and then yells, "Solar Flare!". This causes a blinding light which can temporarily stun and blind the opponent. It is mainly used as a defensive move when the user of this move is tired and needs to escape or charge up an attack. This is really retarded. When your enemy is temporarily stunned/blinded, you do not escape. You punch them in the face repeatedly. Heck, why not just use the solar flare itself repeatedly on your enemy. The solar flare can be used by the weakest character (Krillin, for example) to temporarily stun the strongest character (like Frieza). It also does not need to be charged up, and uses minimal energy. Spirit Bomb ( Genki Dama) Category: Overrated and Misused Oh wow, the Spirit Bomb. This one gets me really angry for some reason. First off, it takes at least 2 or 3 episodes to charge it up, so it isn't very time-efficient. Second, it only works about 50% of the time. Here's some of the people it did, and failed to kill.
Please note that I did not include any DBZ movies, because they often contradict the plot/series. So here's how it's overused: instead of using it as some ultimate, giant, finisher move, why not use it as you would a ki blast? It doesn't use your own energy, it uses other people's energy. Instead of making a giant spirit bomb, why not make a small one, about the same size as a ki blast, and throw them at the enemy repeatedly? So that is the end of my elaborate rant. Please reply with any thoughts you have about it. Edited by Nimbo-Bimbo lord of all noobs, Nov 6 2011, 08:47 PM.
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| + Clearin | Nov 6 2011, 06:47 PM Post #2 | ||||
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What about Cell? And Baby? |
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Nov 6 2011, 08:49 PM Post #3 | ||||
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Whoa, I completely forgot about that. I must've been in a badder mood than I thought if I completely forgot about Cell and Baby being killed by a Kamehameha. Well I edited it, so thanks for pointing it out. |
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Nov 6 2011, 10:23 PM Post #4 | ||||
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I completely agree, and what got to me the most while I was watching the series was the number of great moves that were either ignored or misused, especially solar flare. There were so many times when any of the characters could have used solar flare to gain the upper hand in a fight... Also, I really hated the Multi-form technique for the same reason you listed. It seemed totally pointless (which it was), so why use it at all if you're not even going to incorporate another technique into it? The only thing I kind of disagree with is your bit about the kamehameha, because it is a good technique, and the reason why it was in the series so often was because it was Goku's signature move. You can't just ignore a character's signature move. ![]() Hated the spirit bomb, for the most part. It was cool in the Saiyan saga, but after that it was pointless. Goku should have learned a more useful technique to replace it and finish off Kid Buu, and he should have never used it on Frieza. It got my hopes up. -_- Just one more point I want to add: The Kaio-Ken was undoubtledly one of the most useful (and coolest looking) techniques in the whole series, so why drop it after the first three sagas? It was probably because Toriyama wanted to focus more on the Super Saiyan transformations, but it would have been awesome to see Goku use the Kaio-Ken while he was a Super Saiyan. Is there some law that prevents this? No. So why not use it? It could have helped him gain the upper hand in any of his fights. That is all.
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| Majin Popo | Nov 6 2011, 10:25 PM Post #5 | ||||
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I agree about the solar flare but it's kind of a hax attack and it wouldn't be very entertaining to watch characters abuse it to win fights. | ||||
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| Kblo247 | Nov 7 2011, 01:57 AM Post #6 | ||||
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If we are talking just the series as in anime, Krillin uses multi form as well vs Nappa. He splits into 3 | ||||
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| + Havoc_Wreaker | Nov 7 2011, 02:04 AM Post #7 | ||||
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what happened that your day was so bad ?? oh and the Kamehameha doesn't take that long to charge goku just puts a lot of power in his if hes a distant then charge it up then it then let it rip |
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| lunar2 | Nov 7 2011, 06:09 AM Post #8 | ||||
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the multiform is misused and underrrated. it's a perfect training technique. think about it, you always have a perfect sparring partner(s), and since you're only at 1/4 power, you get 4x the benefit of environmental effects. too bad it was never used that way. | ||||
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list of canon sources: the DB manga, and the Dr. Slump manga as it applies to the crossover during the rra saga. list of non canon sources: everything else, regardless of origin, format, or quality. for those that blindly follow word of god | |||||
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| Kblo247 | Nov 7 2011, 08:35 AM Post #9 | ||||
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The kaioken was dangerous. Anyone here think Goku got the heart disease while the others didn't because of the stress the technique and multiples he used, put on his body?
Edited by Kblo247, Nov 7 2011, 08:35 AM.
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| Copy_Ninja | Nov 7 2011, 08:46 AM Post #10 | ||||
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Novacane for the pain
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The disease was a virus iirc, I don't think kaio ken had much to do with it. It's just luck of the draw basically, Goku was unlucky and he got it. Plus, there needed to be an excuse for Goku to turn up late to the battle
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We'll never be those kids again
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| * Yu Narukami | Nov 7 2011, 09:26 AM Post #11 | ||||
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I think it was stated that Goku contracted the Virus from Namek. Not sure about that though. Although, the techniques and transformation he used definately sped up the process. The Kaioken WAS dangerous, but it would've been awesome if it was used later in the series (In canon), especially if the SSJ multipliers decreased. Goku (Base) : 1 Goku (SSJ) : 2 Goku (SSJ2) : 8 Goku (Kaioken x 10) : 10 Edited by Yu Narukami, Nov 7 2011, 09:29 AM.
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| lunar2 | Nov 7 2011, 03:40 PM Post #12 | ||||
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the kaioken and ssj had nothing to do with the virus. nor did he catch it on another planet. it was a virus from earth that was already starting to show up. | ||||
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Nov 7 2011, 04:53 PM Post #13 | ||||
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I think Instantaneous Movement is underused for fighting purposes.
Edited by Victorious, Nov 7 2011, 05:10 PM.
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Nov 8 2011, 02:07 PM Post #14 | ||||
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Actually, I'm pretty sure Goku had the heart disease for a while, but its effects were sped up because he transformed into a Super Saiyan during his fight with Android 19. But wait, this thread is getting off-topic. |
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| Copy_Ninja | Nov 8 2011, 05:20 PM Post #15 | ||||
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Doesn't Goku have to put his fingers on his forehead to use it though? He wouldn't have time to use it in a fight. If he tried to do it he'd just keep getting hit. |
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