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Illustrious's Fabled Powerlevel List; 2nd one I've made here.
Topic Started: Nov 1 2011, 01:06 AM (1,469 Views)
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Mr. Blonde
Nov 2 2011, 07:40 AM
Not the point. A 1.875x difference is going to be the same as a 1.5x difference. The gap between Vegeta and Cui was much smaller than Piccolo and the Saibaman and Vegeta made Cui explode by pointing at him. Besides, Tenshinhan seemed pretty impressed with how strong Piccolo had gotten and was glad they were on the same team - do you disagree with his assessment?

Nappa does need to be able to sense Chi to know how powerful an attack is. He laughed the Kikoho off after tanking it - there is nothing to suggest he could have been damaged badly, just that he was shocked by a surprise attack. Vegeta was far more concerned by Gohan's Masenko, which Nappa put effort into deflecting and complemented. Plus, the Masenko set the scouter off, but the Kikoho didn't even raise a blip - just a look of mild concern from Vegeta, as opposed to an exclamation of shock. Gohan's full-power Masenko was stronger than Tenshinhan's half-dead one-handed Kikoho.

Also, the Kienzan's composition wasn't the point, Nappa's reaction to it was. He grinned and got ready to take it head-on before Vegeta told him not to. His assessment of an opponent's attack isn't worth a damn.

As for Yajirobe and Chaozu, I'm starting to think that I've been underestimating the former and overestimating the latter. Yajirobe at the start of Dragon Ball Z was most likely between Krillin and Tenshinhan, so even if he only quadrupled his power he'd still be scraping 1000, and Tenshinhan (who must have known he was nothing himself compared to the Saiyans as soon as they landed) wanted himChaozu to stay behind.
But what Vegeta used on Cui and the Saibamen was somesort of Kiai-imploding technique. It's obviiii~ously going to be more effective than a simple punch or elbow.
Also Tenshinhan comments on Piccolo's ruthlessness, not his power. He roughly says;

"Well... that's Piccolo. Enjoy it 'till he's our enemy again..."

You really don't get it do you? If he get's hit by an attack, he would be able to gauge how strong it is by how much it does to him. You are really clutching at straws by referring to the scouter lol. Goku's >1000 kamehameha set off the scouter. The fact of the matter is Vegeta didn't have it on/didn't get hit by the Kikoho and thus couldn't gauge it.
You are still yet to counter Piccolo's reaction to Nappa surviving the Kikoho;

Piccolo: “He-he’s a damn monster…It…it can’t be…Is h-he immortal…!?”

Also this is his reaction to Krillin asking him if he had any confidence they can win after Nappa taken the Kikoho;

Piccolo: “I have none…! I didn’t think they’d be this monstrous…They’re far greater than the Saiyan who came before…”

Remember Piccolo had knowledge of Gohan's power when he was angry;

Piccolo: “Be confident, Gohan. If you put your mind to it, your power surpasses mine.”

So basically Kikoho>Gohan when angry (max) for him to make that kind of assessment.


Nappa knew how dangerous the attack was after his sliced his cheek in the same way he knew how dangerous the Kikoho was when he got hit by it.

All of them were told to leave God's place after they had surpassed Kami. While Yajirobe didn't train for ***** after God's training, Chaozu was still training. And remember, all Yajirobe had was physical strength so him being above Chaozu is ludicrous.
Also Yajirobe was probably weaker than Yamcha at the 23rd Budokai never mind the beginning of Z.
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Nov 2 2011, 02:42 PM
Interesting. So I guess 2800 is the threshold for making a scouter blip?
He's talking out his *****. He's simply clutching at straws.
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Nov 2 2011, 03:13 PM
He's talking out his *****. He's simply clutching at straws.
If you're going to resort to petty insults, I'm not debating with you anymore. u mad, bro.
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Nov 3 2011, 01:06 AM
Cocoman
Nov 2 2011, 03:13 PM
He's talking out his *****. He's simply clutching at straws.
If you're going to resort to petty insults, I'm not debating with you anymore. u mad, bro.
Welcome to my world, where everything I say (even though I've got evidence to back it up) is illogical.

"LSSJ Broly from Movie 8 could defeat Super Perfect Cell". And, even though I have disproved that, I get insulted for my views. So yeah, he mad.
Edited by Illustrious, Nov 3 2011, 02:26 AM.
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Nov 3 2011, 02:24 AM
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Nov 3 2011, 01:06 AM
Cocoman
Nov 2 2011, 03:13 PM
He's talking out his *****. He's simply clutching at straws.
If you're going to resort to petty insults, I'm not debating with you anymore. u mad, bro.
Welcome to my world, where everything I say (even though I've got evidence to back it up) is illogical.

"LSSJ Broly from Movie 8 could defeat Super Perfect Cell". And, even though I have disproved that, I get insulted for my views. So yeah, he mad.
Disproved? Lol. You're delusional.
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Nov 4 2011, 05:07 AM
Illustrious
Nov 3 2011, 02:24 AM
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Nov 3 2011, 01:06 AM
Cocoman
Nov 2 2011, 03:13 PM
He's talking out his *****. He's simply clutching at straws.
If you're going to resort to petty insults, I'm not debating with you anymore. u mad, bro.
Welcome to my world, where everything I say (even though I've got evidence to back it up) is illogical.

"LSSJ Broly from Movie 8 could defeat Super Perfect Cell". And, even though I have disproved that, I get insulted for my views. So yeah, he mad.
Disproved? Lol. You're delusional.
If I'm delusional, you're socially inept. You resort to insulting the people you're debating with instead of producing sound evidence to back up your claims. So, derp, you're not good at debating. Also, projection.
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Filler from the Japanese anime has Gohan at 20,000+ against Recoome.


For the record I'd take LSSJ Broly against 'Super' Perfect Cell any day of the weak...in a horribly one sided fight..think like Freeza vs Vegeta horrible.


Edited by Victorious, Nov 4 2011, 04:33 PM.
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Nov 4 2011, 03:56 PM
If I'm delusional, you're socially inept. You resort to insulting the people you're debating with instead of producing sound evidence to back up your claims. So, derp, you're not good at debating. Also, projection.
Haha I have produced sound evidence.
You're just that awful at debating that you can't see it due to your own personal bias.

You are just plain socially retarded lol. I advise you stay on the internet.

So are you and Mr Blonde planning on getting together or something? Because this whole 'I hate Cocoman' thing you have going on is cute.
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Nov 4 2011, 04:35 PM
Illustrious
Nov 4 2011, 03:56 PM
If I'm delusional, you're socially inept. You resort to insulting the people you're debating with instead of producing sound evidence to back up your claims. So, derp, you're not good at debating. Also, projection.
Haha I have produced sound evidence.
You're just that awful at debating that you can't see it due to your own personal bias.

You are just plain socially retarded lol. I advise you stay on the internet.

So are you and Mr Blonde planning on getting together or something? Because this whole 'I hate Cocoman' thing you have going on is cute.
You're using a "no u" retort, also known as projection. You believe that an idiotic Saiyan, who has never had any lightning in their aura and gets defeated by mid tier SSJs could take Super Perfect Cell. That's something utterly retarded right there. Also, you lack any debate etiquette and all your posts pretty much suck.
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Nov 5 2011, 02:44 AM
Also, you lack any debate etiquette and all your posts pretty much suck.
Now this is pure gold right here.

You turn up here with little/no knowledge of db and you have the cheek to say this? LOL!

I am in fact the very opposite of mad right here. I am in stitches hahahah.

You refer to 'lightning' which shows your complete and utter ignorance of Toei's animation style.
You also refer to the MSSjins Broly fought as 'mid tier' which I personally find hilarious.

I swear, I am pleased that you're in the minority of users on this forum ie uneducated, ignorant clowns.

Anyway people like you are the reason why there is an 'ignore' option on here. Ciao!
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Nov 5 2011, 03:41 AM
Illustrious
Nov 5 2011, 02:44 AM
Also, you lack any debate etiquette and all your posts pretty much suck.
Now this is pure gold right here.

You turn up here with little/no knowledge of db and you have the cheek to say this? LOL!

I am in fact the very opposite of mad right here. I am in stitches hahahah.

You refer to 'lightning' which shows your complete and utter ignorance of Toei's animation style.
You also refer to the MSSjins Broly fought as 'mid tier' which I personally find hilarious.

I swear, I am pleased that you're in the minority of users on this forum ie uneducated, ignorant clowns.

Anyway people like you are the reason why there is an 'ignore' option on here. Ciao!
Little to no knowledge? You're an imbecile. I have read the manga countless times and you have the audacity to say that? I think that anything you say is illogical and undermines the train of thought; e.g; doesn't give people enough proof to substantiate evidence themselves, projects his own insecurities onto his lackeys when debating, is very unprofessional and doesn't know the difference between yours and your's.

You're wasting my time, anyway.
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To Kamikaze Pyro, why do you think Raditz should be stronger than 1,200? Before you say "Gohan exceeded that but didn't kill Raditz when he headbutted him," remember that Ratidz is wearing armor.
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I'm glad you guys are done arguing. I didn't want to hand out anymore warns.

@Selsiuss: Raditz and the Saibamen being equal is a Vizism. In the original, the Saibamen only "rival" Raditz in power, and Toriyama told the anime staff that Raditz is "slightly stronger" in a note. It makes me wonder how some people (outside of this forum) can pick up on smaller things like Vegeta being stronger than Goku in the android saga, yet either don't know or completely ignore the Raditz case.
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Anyhow, I'll probably continue/finish this tonight. I'll be reading over the manga (for the rest of the Frieza Saga, anyway) tonight to see if I can correct anything I've got wrong in my mind.
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Cocoman
Nov 4 2011, 04:35 PM
So are you and Mr Blonde planning on getting together or something? Because this whole 'I hate Cocoman' thing you have going on is cute.
It's presumptuous to assume that I hate you. For all I know, you're one of the nicest people around in real life. The point is that you stopped debating to insult me, and there's no point in continuing a debate that's devolved into insults.

I know this has cooled off and KP has dished out warns, but I just wanted to clear up this little tidbit.
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