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Is Capital Punishment a Good thing or a Bad Thing?
Topic Started: Oct 24 2011, 11:24 PM (1,923 Views)
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Oct 24 2011, 11:26 PM
An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.

That's pretty much all that needs to be said, I don't support capital punishment, I don't see a reason for it.
Actually, everybody couldn't see out of one eye.

Also on the story of the guy in Georgia that was falsely executed, everyone that lied and came back changed their story should get executed for the murder of an innocent man.
Edited by Optimus Banana, Oct 25 2011, 10:41 PM.
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Oct 25 2011, 09:05 PM
I actually support the death penalty. You can say, "what if someone is falsely accused, and then killed." but that person would have to live the rest of his life in prison anyway without the death penalty. It would hardly change anything. Nothing in this world is a perfect solution or quick fix, but I believe some people deserve death.
Well if a person is in prison he can come out and live his life again. Also prisons don't have to be torture but it should be a place of work, and learning again, or if in for life then just work.
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Oct 25 2011, 10:52 PM
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Oct 25 2011, 09:05 PM
I actually support the death penalty. You can say, "what if someone is falsely accused, and then killed." but that person would have to live the rest of his life in prison anyway without the death penalty. It would hardly change anything. Nothing in this world is a perfect solution or quick fix, but I believe some people deserve death.
Well if a person is in prison he can come out and live his life again. Also prisons don't have to be torture but it should be a place of work, and learning again, or if in for life then just work.
From the shows I've seen of prison is like a gang sasauge-fest with drugs getting smuggled and people getting shanked.
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Oct 25 2011, 11:27 PM
Chris
Oct 25 2011, 10:52 PM
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Oct 25 2011, 09:05 PM
I actually support the death penalty. You can say, "what if someone is falsely accused, and then killed." but that person would have to live the rest of his life in prison anyway without the death penalty. It would hardly change anything. Nothing in this world is a perfect solution or quick fix, but I believe some people deserve death.
Well if a person is in prison he can come out and live his life again. Also prisons don't have to be torture but it should be a place of work, and learning again, or if in for life then just work.
From the shows I've seen of prison is like a gang sasauge-fest with drugs getting smuggled and people getting shanked.
Yeah most are, but prisons are not suppose to be that way. They are suppose to be working off your crimes and become a better person.
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not many prisons in the u.s. that way. i spent 7 years locked up, and only 5 people died on units where i was at while i was there.

1. suicide by hanging.

2. heart attack

3. a fistfight. a vein in the head was accidentally busted.

4. accident. laying a water pipe in a trench, and the side of the trench collapsed, smothering him.

5. stabbed.

5 deaths among an average of 500 people at a time over 7 years? that's something like 1% of the national average in the free world. prison is the safest place to be.

and there was only 1 (alleged) rape that i was ever aware of, and that was only called a rape because they got caught and the guy didn't want to get in trouble.

that doesn't include the low frequency of fights. i was personally in 10 fights over the last 4 years. 5 while on an orientation unit, 3 on my first unit after that, and 2 on my last unit.

and these aren't brawls. they are one on one fights with clearly defined "rules", such as only hands/arms used, no weapons, have to let them stand up after falling, no wrestling, etc.

the prison culture revolves around making the best of your time there, not being violent at all times. everything is organized and already thought out by the inmates themselves to avoid unnecessary problems.
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Sure, they can find evidence to show they are innocent, but that wouldn't take much away from the death penalty. It takes years to go through that system. It wouldn't matter if you are on death row or not, chances are if they havent found evidence by the time of your execution, they won't find it. And people get scarred in prison. Death is sometimes preferable to having 20 years of your life deleted, only to struggle to get back into the system. Not to mention if you were guilty of the crime, and you could just continue committing crimes.
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In the last four years, 17 Death Row inmates in the nation have been found innocent and freed. Seven of those men were in Illinois. Many legal advocates in the state and around the country are dismayed that the state's justice system could have repeatedly failed so miserably. Throughout every one of the men's ordeals, corruption, flawed investigations, and inadequate legal representation plagued them. And in the cases of eight of the nine men, it took the intervention of people completely outside of the justice system for them to win back their freedom


I wonder if you would say the same thing if you were one of these 17 men? Granted this article is 10 years old, it's very relevant. Once someone is sentenced to death there is usually no means at all to further check into it so that 17 is obviously more. It's sad to see people support the death penalty no matter what you believe is moral etc when people that are innocent can be killed :/

If the situation was flopped and you were on death row I wonder if you would still use the whole "kill 'em" speech.
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In the last four years, 17 Death Row inmates in the nation have been found innocent and freed. Seven of those men were in Illinois. Many legal advocates in the state and around the country are dismayed that the state's justice system could have repeatedly failed so miserably. Throughout every one of the men's ordeals, corruption, flawed investigations, and inadequate legal representation plagued them. And in the cases of eight of the nine men, it took the intervention of people completely outside of the justice system for them to win back their freedom


I wonder if you would say the same thing if you were one of these 17 men? Granted this article is 10 years old, it's very relevant. Once someone is sentenced to death there is usually no means at all to further check into it so that 17 is obviously more. It's sad to see people support the death penalty no matter what you believe is moral etc when people that are innocent can be killed :/

If the situation was flopped and you were on death row I wonder if you would still use the whole "kill 'em" speech.
And that's a very broad article. I've heard of plenty of people who've been cleared due to advances of technology.(DNA) If you were wrongfully convicted it was probably not the judicial system's fault but more or less the jurors IMHO.

So, can probably blame jurors for wrongful convictions.

As for the death penalty, yes. If you've been convicted with HARD EVIDENCE tying you to a crime, then sure. You should be tried to the fullest extent (including death if applicable.)

YOU KNOW THE PUNISHMENT FOR THE CRIME WHEN YOU COMMIT IT.
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Only for Serial Killers and Pedophiles in my opinion. The rest are up for debate.
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I'm completely against it since they can never be 100% sure that a convict is truly guilty. Even a convict confesses it could have been pressure by a government agency to confess in the first place. The right to life is one of the best protections against tyrannical government.

I'm not against punishing through prison though because there's no better alternative. "Stopping" the crime before punishing looks good on paper but it's a lot easier said then done. How would a crime be stopped anyway without the threat of prison? Handcuffing a person and reprimanding them isn't going to stop them from doing it again.
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