Is Capital Punishment a Good thing or a Bad Thing?

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Is Capital Punishment a Good thing or a Bad Thing?
Tweet Topic Started: Oct 24 2011, 11:24 PM (1,925 Views)
DanielSan	Oct 25 2011, 12:03 AM Post #16
Posts: 1,536 Group: Donator Member #5,730 Joined: February 14, 2011	Agent.G Oct 24 2011, 11:59 PM Not executing the worst of all criminals will result in a (likely minor) increase in the already overcrowded prisons. Correction (prisons) facilities are already having money issues, overcrowding issues, sexual assault issues, gang violence, drugs, etc. putting someone who was deemed worthy of the death penalty in the mix with other people (yes they'll be in a max security prison but that doesn't mean they'll be separated from everyone else) will increase the problems that already exist. We probably wouldn't have to execute this people if we spent more money on trying to prevent crime, and trying to rehabilitate the crimes. By just letting them sit out in the jails and prisons isn't going to help when people get out. If we start spending money on trying to prevent the crimes and try to help the criminals become a better person and have them work off the things they did then it would be a better world.



+ Pelador	Oct 25 2011, 01:14 AM Post #17
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	Overcrowding in prisons is not solved by capital punishment. As stated already, even people on death row spend years waiting for their time to come. And in that time, more people are coming in, filling the place up. Over crowding is a lousy and flawed excuse.
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lunar2	Oct 25 2011, 02:07 AM Post #18
Posts: 9,150 Group: Member Member #5,265 Joined: September 24, 2010 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime dragonball/z/gt/movies What Browser do you use? internet explorer or firefox	imo, the death penalty should be reserved for repeatedly convicted killers. only those who have been shown to have a long term desire/willingness to kill without justification should be put down, much like a violent animal. you don't kill a dog because it bites once. you kill it because it bites again. same principle applies to serial killers, but not necessarily spree killers, unless they are serial spree killers.
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+ Pelador	Oct 25 2011, 02:18 AM Post #19
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	But then you could argue that people of that nature are mentally deranged and actually need psychological help rather than just being labelled as criminals. They should be kept in institutions where they can be treated and studied.
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Cal	Oct 25 2011, 02:30 AM Post #20
I may not deserve to live, but I will protect those in my reach with my reverse blade! Posts: 5,259 Group: Member Member #6,087 Joined: April 25, 2011 Gender Female Favourite Anime hentai What Browser do you use? hentaibrowser Favourite Manga hentai	Rogue Oct 24 2011, 11:26 PM An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. That's pretty much all that needs to be said, I don't support capital punishment, I don't see a reason for it. I agree. http://dbzf.co.uk/single/?p=8369955&t=8319542 Edited by Cal, Oct 25 2011, 02:39 AM.



lunar2	Oct 25 2011, 04:50 AM Post #21
Posts: 9,150 Group: Member Member #5,265 Joined: September 24, 2010 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime dragonball/z/gt/movies What Browser do you use? internet explorer or firefox	Pelador Oct 25 2011, 02:18 AM But then you could argue that people of that nature are mentally deranged and actually need psychological help rather than just being labelled as criminals. They should be kept in institutions where they can be treated and studied. it's not about whether they are deranged or not. theoretically, unless a dog is rabid, you could teach it to be nicer, but dogs that keep attacking people are put down because they are dangerous. it's the same principle. some people are too dangerous to live, regardless of why they are that dangerous. the humane thing would be to simply put them down, rather than put them through the horrific "treatments" that would be required for them to be able to function on any level.
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Fulgore	Oct 25 2011, 07:03 PM Post #22
The Darkness Returns Posts: 3,163 Group: Member Member #5,205 Joined: September 2, 2010	If every criminal is blind, I don't see them being repeat offenders very easily.
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Meowth	Oct 25 2011, 07:07 PM Post #23
=._.= Posts: 130,670 Group: Princess Member #23 Joined: November 22, 2004 Gender Female Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya What Browser do you use? FireFox Favourite Manga Fruits Basket	Fulgore Oct 25 2011, 07:03 PM If every criminal is blind, I don't see them being repeat offenders very easily. I'm not sure you get what the quote means...



Cal	Oct 25 2011, 07:07 PM Post #24
I may not deserve to live, but I will protect those in my reach with my reverse blade! Posts: 5,259 Group: Member Member #6,087 Joined: April 25, 2011 Gender Female Favourite Anime hentai What Browser do you use? hentaibrowser Favourite Manga hentai	Fulgore Oct 25 2011, 07:03 PM If every criminal is blind, I don't see them being repeat offenders very easily. The point is that 2 wrongs doesn't equal a right. Besides it's innocent people convicting people to death (what the topic is about) not other criminals.



+ Green	Oct 25 2011, 07:56 PM Post #25
Flashy Thing! Posts: 5,436 Group: Legend Member #1,181 Joined: February 25, 2006 Gender Male Country United States What Browser do you use? Fire fox Favourite Manga Gantz	....i'm pretty sure he understands the quote. This concept of "an eye for an eye" in the criminal justice/legal field is called "lex talionis". Lex talionis is actually what is on my xbox account, like the words my avatar says or something like that. http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Lex+talionis Edited by Green, Oct 25 2011, 07:57 PM.
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Cal	Oct 25 2011, 08:01 PM Post #26
I may not deserve to live, but I will protect those in my reach with my reverse blade! Posts: 5,259 Group: Member Member #6,087 Joined: April 25, 2011 Gender Female Favourite Anime hentai What Browser do you use? hentaibrowser Favourite Manga hentai	The reference you just gave supports my point. It's about a legal system punishing criminals not criminals punishing criminals. Following your reference since a person kills then innocent people kill him, therefore the phrase refers to the legal system not just criminals.



Meowth	Oct 25 2011, 08:13 PM Post #27
=._.= Posts: 130,670 Group: Princess Member #23 Joined: November 22, 2004 Gender Female Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya What Browser do you use? FireFox Favourite Manga Fruits Basket	What Cal said, the quote doesn't mean that all criminals go blind, lol. Effectivly though, the death penatly means that an innocent person becomes a killer and those who supported it become accessories. If someone is wrongly put the death, shouldn't the excecutioner be put to death as they killed an innocent person in cold blood? Or should they be convicted of manslaughter? And all those who where a part of it accessories to it. And someone correct me if I am wrong, but no one has been charged when someone innocent has been wrongly excecuted have they?



POOHEAD189	Oct 25 2011, 09:05 PM Post #28
Posts: 3,186 Group: Member Member #4,559 Joined: October 30, 2009 Favourite Anime Dragonball/Z Favourite Manga Dragonball	I actually support the death penalty. You can say, "what if someone is falsely accused, and then killed." but that person would have to live the rest of his life in prison anyway without the death penalty. It would hardly change anything. Nothing in this world is a perfect solution or quick fix, but I believe some people deserve death.
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lunar2	Oct 25 2011, 10:20 PM Post #29
Posts: 9,150 Group: Member Member #5,265 Joined: September 24, 2010 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime dragonball/z/gt/movies What Browser do you use? internet explorer or firefox	@wrongful conviction. it's fairly difficult to be wrongfully convicted of multiple murders over a period of time. eventually, you will have an alibi for at least one of them, or there won't be any witnesses/physical evidence tying you to one of them. only a willfully biased justice system can convict someone of a string of crimes they didn't commit, and in a system that corrupt, it doesn't really matter whether they were "wrongfully convicted", because the system will never admit it. as for repercussions for wrongful execution. that's the same as repercussions for wrongful imprisonment. the prison guards didn't do anything wrong, nor did the prison system. it's the courts that were wrong, and in most places there are laws concerning restitution for wrongful imprisonment and wrongful death.
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Meowth	Oct 25 2011, 10:31 PM Post #30
=._.= Posts: 130,670 Group: Princess Member #23 Joined: November 22, 2004 Gender Female Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya What Browser do you use? FireFox Favourite Manga Fruits Basket	POOHEAD189 Oct 25 2011, 09:05 PM I actually support the death penalty. You can say, "what if someone is falsely accused, and then killed." but that person would have to live the rest of his life in prison anyway without the death penalty. It would hardly change anything. Nothing in this world is a perfect solution or quick fix, but I believe some people deserve death. If you are wrongly imprissioned, it can be overturned though, that's the point, you can't reverse killing someone. There's also the fact of who should decide who lives and who dies, there are people who would like to see the death penalty for rapists and peadophiles as well as murder. I mean the notion of death for other crimes does go against one phrase "make the punishment fit the crime" as death isn't the same as rape, nor equal. But that's an aside. If you killed someone, willingly, so not accidentally, would you prefer life in prision or death? Personally, I would prefer death over losing my freedom, it's an easier way out.



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