Perfect Cell (50% Full Power) v Dabura

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Perfect Cell (50% Full Power) v Dabura
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Saberoph	Sep 27 2011, 08:15 PM Post #46
Posts: 11,517 Group: Member Member #5,650 Joined: January 23, 2011 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Internet Explorer Favourite Manga Dragon Ball Z	Well for one look at the frontal scans, one from the Budokai and the other from the Dabra fight. They don't match at all. Then look at the back of the hair too, Gohan's MSS matches it in the Dabra fight because it's very short. However Gohan's SS2 is longer and stiffer, and it doesn't match the hair from the Dabra fight. But if you look at the frontal shot from MSS Gohan at the Budokai, it matches the frontal scans from the Dabra fight.
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lunar2	Sep 27 2011, 08:23 PM Post #47
Posts: 9,150 Group: Member Member #5,265 Joined: September 24, 2010 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime dragonball/z/gt/movies What Browser do you use? internet explorer or firefox	@hair. like tgz, i just don't usually see the features most people harp on about hair and aura. the bang is an easily identifiable feature, like sparks, while overall hair or aura shape aren't easily identifiable most of the time.
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+ Pyrus	Sep 27 2011, 08:25 PM Post #48
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Most of the shots we get of Gohan during the Dabra fight aren't exactly highly detailed or aren't very close, aren't they?
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Optimus Banana	Sep 27 2011, 08:27 PM Post #49
Posts: 837 Group: Member Member #5,898 Joined: March 25, 2011 Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Google Favourite Manga Dragonball Z	Darn AT why couldn't you make adult Gohan's SSJ2 hair easily identifiable so there wouldn't be any of these debates!
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+ Clearin	Sep 27 2011, 08:29 PM Post #50
Posts: 12,580 Group: Elite Member Member #6,372 Joined: June 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom	Kamikaze Pyro Sep 27 2011, 08:25 PM Most of the shots we get of Gohan during the Dabra fight aren't exactly highly detailed or aren't very close, aren't they? Nah, but in most panels you can see if the bang is thin or fat and if it goes past his eye. Quote: Darn AT why couldn't you make adult Gohan's SSJ2 hair easily identifiable so there wouldn't be any of these debates! I know right?? And he even gets rid of the 2nd bang in MSSj Gohan, which was the biggest change in his hair from MSSj to SSJ2. It's almost like he planned this.



Saberoph	Sep 27 2011, 08:30 PM Post #51
Posts: 11,517 Group: Member Member #5,650 Joined: January 23, 2011 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Internet Explorer Favourite Manga Dragon Ball Z	Kamikaze Pyro Sep 27 2011, 08:25 PM Most of the shots we get of Gohan during the Dabra fight aren't exactly highly detailed or aren't very close, aren't they? There are only a few, I do believe however, if there had been more close up shots we wouldn't be having these debates. That and Gohan's Base hairstyle should have been more different too. Edited by Saberoph, Sep 27 2011, 08:48 PM.
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Kruegs Outlandish	Sep 27 2011, 10:03 PM Post #52
Posts: 2,526 Group: Duplicate Member #6,436 Joined: July 1, 2011	has SSJ3 Gohan even replied beyond making this thread, lmao... and was there not a previous topic in which Super Gohan went in and shut the sh*t all the way down? @ sparks for SSJ3 Goku sparks are much less frequent for SSJ3. There were plenty of instances in which SSJ2 CG Gohan didn't have sparks, and even when someone tried to bar both closeup panels and Energy Wave instances, Gohan was shown enough times without sparks to where artwork was blamed for being the reason. Even still, none were shown during the fight with Dabra... @ Dabra vs Cell once more I assume that (SEG) Cell was using near two thirds of his power at Goku (look back a few pages at my other post). So If Dabra >= (67%) Perfect Cell, SSJ CG Goku, then Dabra > (50%) Perfect Cell. Dabra is 33% over (50%) Cell. Even still, Cell has regen; Dabra still has the advantage. So yeah. Dabra wins.



Saberoph	Sep 27 2011, 10:51 PM Post #53
Posts: 11,517 Group: Member Member #5,650 Joined: January 23, 2011 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Internet Explorer Favourite Manga Dragon Ball Z	bizness86 Sep 27 2011, 10:03 PM @ sparks for SSJ3 Goku sparks are much less frequent for SSJ3. There were plenty of instances in which SSJ2 CG Gohan didn't have sparks, and even when someone tried to bar both closeup panels and Energy Wave instances, Gohan was shown enough times without sparks to where artwork was blamed for being the reason. Even still, none were shown during the fight with Dabra... @ Dabra vs Cell once more I assume that (SEG) Cell was using near two thirds of his power at Goku (look back a few pages at my other post). So If Dabra >= (67%) Perfect Cell, SSJ CG Goku, then Dabra > (50%) Perfect Cell. Dabra is 33% over (50%) Cell. Even still, Cell has regen; Dabra still has the advantage. So yeah. Dabra wins. But none the less Goha never had a single spark in that fight, also there's the fact that Gohan's aura in that fight also doesn't match that of his SS2 Budokai self, it matches his MSS at the Budokai and Training for the Budokai. There are usually 3 main factors between MSS and SS2. 1. Sparks. 2. Aura. 3. Hairstyle. However, with Gohan I find there are 4 not 3. The last would be his attitude, his SS2 attitude is very different from Goku or Vegeta's imo. To me he seems more aggressive and doesn't show any worry or anything on his face, yet in the Dabra fight he shows more emotion other than his cold stern attitude. And no, I am not saying this because I've earlier said I believe him to be MSS. However, I do find like most of the evidence, I still find most of it supports Gohan being MSS. This comment might seem like a slap in the face of others, but it is very true. When I examine and present evidence, I acknowledge and present all of it (What I've examined and what's fair), not just certain parts and if there's more I don't leave that out. As a side note...If people have something to say they should say it, not just hide behind the like and unlike button...they should grow a pair and say something... Edited by Saberoph, Sep 27 2011, 11:10 PM.
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Daniel	Sep 27 2011, 11:06 PM Post #54
I like Pokémon Posts: 2,576 Group: Beautiful Mind Member #5,540 Joined: December 22, 2010 Gender Male Country Canada Favourite Anime Dragonball Z, Death Note, Attack on Titan, One Punch Man, Yu Yu Hakusho, I like a lot of stuff. What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Deathnote, Black Cat, Attack on Titan, I like a lot of stuff.	SSJ 2 Gohan has a aura around him gohan during dabura fight does not i believe therfore i believe it was SSJ, not SSJ2



Saberoph	Sep 27 2011, 11:11 PM Post #55
Posts: 11,517 Group: Member Member #5,650 Joined: January 23, 2011 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Internet Explorer Favourite Manga Dragon Ball Z	He had an aura in the fight, it just doesn't match Gohan's SS2 aura.
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Mihawk	Sep 28 2011, 01:44 AM Post #56
Posts: 4,804 Group: Prodigy Member #4,783 Joined: March 2, 2010 Gender Not Specified	About 37 Llamas you are bringing hater to a whole new level :P



Optimus Banana	Sep 28 2011, 02:24 AM Post #57
Posts: 837 Group: Member Member #5,898 Joined: March 25, 2011 Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Google Favourite Manga Dragonball Z	illstand1 Sep 28 2011, 01:44 AM About 37 Llamas you are bringing hater to a whole new level :P Why you say that :3
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soldier223	Sep 30 2011, 09:15 PM Post #58
Posts: 131 Group: Member Member #5,115 Joined: August 8, 2010 Favourite Anime Dragonball Z	I actually dont think the fight between Gohan and Dabura had so much to do with what transformation Gohan was in as it was his technique. I mean, if he was a MSSJ, then he was fighting as hard as he could but just couldnt keep up with Dabura's polished fighting technique, as Gohan has done very little training since the world has been at peace. As you all know, Vegeta commented at least twice on Gohans drop in power and his sloppy fighting. Gohan is also aware of this, so if I were in his position, it would make sense to jump to SSJ2, in order to make up for the sloppy fighting by vastly increasing speed and power, and end it quickly, as I dont think they ever got to master the SSJ2 transformation as it simply requires too much energy to minimize the output (except Goku in Otherworld). Now if it had been Vegeta or Goku fighting Dabura, I believe they could of handled it in SSJ because they've kept their fighting discipline and technique razor sharp as well as the energy gained from constant training. But that's just my opinion



~~p123~~	Oct 1 2011, 11:11 PM Post #59
Posts: 2,148 Group: Banned Member #5,120 Joined: August 9, 2010	Powered Up Cell ( Vs SSJ Goku/Gohan ) > Dabura IMO



~~CatouttaHell~~	Oct 1 2011, 11:22 PM Post #60
God of Destruction Posts: 483 Group: Suspended Member #5,477 Joined: December 6, 2010 Favourite Anime Dragonball Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	Dabra one-shots him.



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