SSJ2 Goku (EOZ) v SSJ Gotenks (Pre Rosat)

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SSJ2 Goku (EOZ) v SSJ Gotenks (Pre Rosat)
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Mark Satan	Sep 21 2011, 05:10 AM Post #1
Posts: 88 Group: Duplicate Member #6,428 Joined: June 29, 2011 Favourite Anime dbz	Who wins?



+ Pyrus	Sep 21 2011, 05:19 AM Post #2
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	If you're using the SEG 2x multiplier, I don't think Goku can do it. If you're using 4-6x, then he can surely match up with Gotenks, and probably surpass him.
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Fourth Doctor Who	Sep 21 2011, 09:39 AM Post #3
Mark of the Crimson Dragon Posts: 671 Group: Member Member #4,214 Joined: May 28, 2009 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragon Ball, Yu-Gi-Oh! and Bleah What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Pokemon and Bleach	I have Super Saiya-jin 2 multiplier at 3x to 4x during the Boo era. I'm sure Super Saiya-jin 2 Son Goku [EOZ] just might be nearly equal or greater than SSJ Gotenks (pre-Rosat).



5star	Sep 21 2011, 03:09 PM Post #4
Posts: 158 Group: Member Member #6,687 Joined: September 2, 2011	I believe base Goku would own him... So yes, ssj2 goku wins.. To tell you the truth, I don't even think goku can go ssj at the end of z. I believe he took old kais word ''ssj is not the way to go'' And somehow transferred all that power to base.. Edited by 5star, Sep 21 2011, 03:10 PM.



lunar2	Sep 21 2011, 03:12 PM Post #5
Posts: 9,150 Group: Member Member #5,265 Joined: September 24, 2010 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime dragonball/z/gt/movies What Browser do you use? internet explorer or firefox	it depends on 3 factors. 1. the exact placing of ssj3 goku and ssj gotenks in the buu arc. 2. the ssj3 multiplier for goku 3. the progression rate for goku over those 10 years. i have: 1. ssj3 goku = 10 ssj gotenks = 12 2. ssj3 = 8x multiplier 3. 2x per 5 years for all the adults that still train so, i end up with ssj2 goku (eoz): 5 he's still not even half as powerful as ssj gotenks.
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+ Clearin	Sep 21 2011, 03:15 PM Post #6
Posts: 12,580 Group: Elite Member Member #6,372 Joined: June 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom	I don't think he could do it. I have SSj Gotenks a little above SSj3 Goku and I'm not sure if Goku even caught up to his SSj3 Buu Saga self in SSj2 by EOZ



~~Destiny~~	Sep 21 2011, 03:22 PM Post #7
Posts: 7,206 Group: GTFO Member #5,331 Joined: October 16, 2010	Gotenks godstomps imo. SSJ3 Goku would though...



* Yu Narukami	Sep 21 2011, 03:23 PM Post #8
Izanagi! Posts: 12,330 Group: Retired Staff Member #6,446 Joined: July 3, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None	Buu Saga : Goku : 1 SSJ Goku : 50 SSJ2 Goku : 100 SSJ3 Goku : 400 Gotenks (Pre) : 8 SSJ Gotenks (Pre) : 400 By my numbers, Goku would have to quadruple his strength just to be even with SSJ Gotenks (Pre), which I don't think he did Edited by Yu Narukami, Sep 21 2011, 03:23 PM.



~~Spirit~~	Sep 21 2011, 03:28 PM Post #9
So Lonely Posts: 1,435 Group: GTFO Member #6,401 Joined: June 24, 2011	I have Mr. Satan at 15,000. Mr. Satan wins.
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Saberoph	Sep 21 2011, 03:36 PM Post #10
Posts: 11,517 Group: Member Member #5,650 Joined: January 23, 2011 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Internet Explorer Favourite Manga Dragon Ball Z	Not going by the PL List I made several months back (Since I need to update it, and will make Several changes, especially the SS3 Multipliers), I don't think Goku can do it. I right now believe Boo arc Base Gotenks was on SS3 Goku's lvl. And I don't see Goku really increasing until between EOZ and GT. I mean Goku really just had himself and Goku didn't really have anything special to Train with. Also I seriously doubt Goku's Base/MSS can increase THAT much in, what 10 years (I think that's right, might need correcting on that one...please)? So, going by Goku's 7 year progression being Dead, I doubt Goku increased that much in 10. I see Gotenks taking this pretty easy too.
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Nusu	Sep 21 2011, 03:42 PM Post #11
Piccolo Daimao > Piccolo Jr. Posts: 5,541 Group: Member Member #4,999 Joined: July 1, 2010 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z, One Piece, Yu-Yu Hakusho What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, One Piece, Death Note, Yu-Yu Hakusho	Son Goku reaching his old Super-Saiyajin 3 level as Super-Saiyajin 2? I think that's a bit too far fetched even for my taste. Gotenks stomps.
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+ Pyrus	Sep 21 2011, 06:01 PM Post #12
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Well, I mean, why not? It's Goku's "character" to surpass the previous villain in power, isn't it? His sheer "determination" would allow for this, of course. The only reason he didn't increase his power many-fold over the 7 years was because he was focused on achieving new forms.
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Meowth	Sep 21 2011, 10:23 PM Post #13
=._.= Posts: 130,670 Group: Princess Member #23 Joined: November 22, 2004 Gender Female Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya What Browser do you use? FireFox Favourite Manga Fruits Basket	Spirit Sep 21 2011, 03:28 PM I have Mr. Satan at 15,000. Mr. Satan wins. Congrats on the spam, this offence violates your probation agreement, you made improvements but you agreed to an agreement where any offence would get you banned. Sorry but those are the rules.



Saberoph	Sep 21 2011, 10:56 PM Post #14
Posts: 11,517 Group: Member Member #5,650 Joined: January 23, 2011 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Internet Explorer Favourite Manga Dragon Ball Z	Sigh I was starting to like him too...some people never learn, perhaps next time he will...I hope. Anyway pack to topic, I can see from a Manga standpoint Base Gotenks pre rosat under SS3 Goku, but not by much. However MSS Gotenks pre rosat stronger than SS3 Goku imo. But I really don't see Goku covering That much ground in 10 years.
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Balthazor	Sep 22 2011, 02:06 PM Post #15
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