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Pan (EoZ) VS Yamcha (EoZ); Fight
Topic Started: Sep 14 2011, 07:53 AM (4,517 Views)
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Who would win?
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Yamcha is going to stomp badly!
I have his PL's around 80,000,000 - 100,000,000 and Pan's at least about 1,000 if not, then 10,000.
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really? 10,000? what exactly are you smoking?

Chapter: 518 (DBZ 324), P4.1
Goku: “She won’t be able to win the tournament, I suppose, but she should definitely be able to go pretty far. Right now, Pan is the one in our family with the most guts!”
Pan: “Yeah!”

this is the only statement made about pan's power. when goku made this statement, he knew that vegeta, goten, trunks, mr. buu, uub, pan, and himself would be competing, and that there was a chance that the other z fighters would compete as well.

in a tournament of 12 fighters, and at least 5 were high tier ki users, goku said pan would definitely go far. not that she would probably go far, but that she would definitely go far. goku was fully confident that pan WOULD win her first fight, and he did not know who she would be fighting.

now, even if we assume that goku was already planning to manipulate the fights, all that means is that pan wouldn't fight goku or uub. that still leaves vegeta, mr. buu, goten, and trunks, as well as any other z fighters, like piccolo, that might or might not enter. so, with the very significant chance that pan could fight vegeta or mr. buu in the first round, goku said that pan WOULD DEFINITELY go far in the tournament.

simply put, pan was introduced as the new powerhouse hybrid to keep an eye on. pan was the new gohan, not the new yamcha.
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Sep 14 2011, 02:02 PM
really? 10,000? what exactly are you smoking?

Chapter: 518 (DBZ 324), P4.1
Goku: “She won’t be able to win the tournament, I suppose, but she should definitely be able to go pretty far. Right now, Pan is the one in our family with the most guts!”
Pan: “Yeah!”

this is the only statement made about pan's power. when goku made this statement, he knew that vegeta, goten, trunks, mr. buu, uub, pan, and himself would be competing, and that there was a chance that the other z fighters would compete as well.

in a tournament of 12 fighters, and at least 5 were high tier ki users, goku said pan would definitely go far. not that she would probably go far, but that she would definitely go far. goku was fully confident that pan WOULD win her first fight, and he did not know who she would be fighting.

now, even if we assume that goku was already planning to manipulate the fights, all that means is that pan wouldn't fight goku or uub. that still leaves vegeta, mr. buu, goten, and trunks, as well as any other z fighters, like piccolo, that might or might not enter. so, with the very significant chance that pan could fight vegeta or mr. buu in the first round, goku said that pan WOULD DEFINITELY go far in the tournament.

simply put, pan was introduced as the new powerhouse hybrid to keep an eye on. pan was the new gohan, not the new yamcha.
Ah, then I am so sorry plus I DON'T SMOKE.
I say her PL is in the hundreds if not, then it's 1,000.
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so, knowing that goku was confident in her ability to win against even vegeta or mr. buu (but apparently not both), you still say she's weaker than yamcha? either yamcha is the most badass retired old guy the world has ever seen, or you have a serious case of denial. goku guaranteed that pan would win at least 1 match, knowing that there are at least 2 ssj2 tier opponents in the tournament that she could end up fighting in the first round.
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the DB manga, and the Dr. Slump manga as it applies to the crossover during the rra saga.

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I'm not sure about Yamcha's power level after frieza saga. I have him 10,000-20,000 (post-Kaio training). After 3 years of training he's in 100,000 - 500,000 (according to me and venom9808).

I'm sure Pan could handle even Frieza as me and venom9808 has her power level 1,000,000-1,125,000.

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I honestly never knew where to put her. But I honestly wouldn't be surprised if she is ahead of Yamcha.

Why did I put two "honestlys" in that sentence? >_>
Edited by Clearin, Sep 14 2011, 04:45 PM.
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I can't actually put her above Raditz, I think she has the same feats as 21st Budokai Kid Goku, except that Goku couldn't fly and she hasn't learnt the Kamehameha at that time, so she'd really really really lose badly!
First, Yamcha would just see her and she would be blown up to pieces, then Videl would come and would scream "PAN!!! NOOOOOOOOO!", and after that she would fly to Yamcha and try to kill him and he do the same thing that he did to Pan, at last Gohan would come and he would scream and turn into Mystic Gohan and just feel Yamcha's presence and Yamcha would be blown up to a billion of pieces.
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Yamcha would win with extremely ease.

And for your information SSJ Gogeta, I'd have to give Yamcha a little respect and increase his Power Battle/Level. I have him about 50,000 - 70,000 after the training with King Kai, 150,000 170,000 in the Garlic Jr. Saga (I know it's a filler.), 200,000 - 225,000 or even 230,000 in the Trunks Saga and 2,000,000 - 2,250,000 or even 2,300,000 in the Android Saga, while I have Pan about 750 - 1,000 Post Videl and Gohan's training.
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I have Yamcha's PL is about Frieza 75% - 100% Tier at the EOZ or maybe 10% stronger than 100% Frieza, so he'd blow her up to a zillion of pieces.
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definitely another irrational pan hater. goku's word means nothing, i guess. the fact that she flies AROUND THE PLANET fast enough that no one even gets worried about her means nothing, i guess. the fact that she's allowed to enter a tournament with 2 ssj2 tier characters, and EXPECTED to definitely make it through the first round means nothing, i guess.
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the DB manga, and the Dr. Slump manga as it applies to the crossover during the rra saga.

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everything else, regardless of origin, format, or quality.

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I really hate Pan, but she is the daughter of Mystic Gohan, she should be able to defeat Yamcha (a character i like) quite easily...
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now, see. that's rational Pan hate. you dislike the character, but at least admit the obvious amount of power she has.
list of canon sources:

the DB manga, and the Dr. Slump manga as it applies to the crossover during the rra saga.

list of non canon sources:

everything else, regardless of origin, format, or quality.

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Well doesn't pan beat goten in the tournament, correct me if im wrong.
If so then i think pan stomps yamcha.
Edited by Warrior-Elite, Sep 14 2011, 06:15 PM.
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that was filler. for that to happen, goten would have had to beat mr. buu, and we know THAT won't happen.
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Yeah, lol. I'm with Lunar on this one.

If you have Pan lower than freaking Raditz, you're a troll.
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uub cant fire ki blast does that make him weak no he cant fly ether and that still doesn't make him weak

goten -7 years old and can turn ssj1

pan - 5 or 4 and loves to fight like goku and goten

im pretty sure she would whip that garbage yamcha

yamcha hasn't trained in like over what 17 years he is a piss weak compared to fricken pan easy win for her
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