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Catholic to atheist; Why is this very common?
Topic Started: Sep 14 2011, 04:01 AM (2,104 Views)
J-Smack
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I've noticed that a lot of people who begin as Catholics become atheists. I can't think of many right off hand, but Bill Mahr (sp?) is an example. Numerous people on this forum seem to fit this criteria as well.

The only reason that I can find as to why this is, is that Catholicism is not as "Bible thumperish" as some other Christian denominations, and people feel less like they are going to be shunned by their family and friends if they convert to atheism.

Any thoughts?
Edited by J-Smack, Sep 14 2011, 04:15 AM.
darkwarrior
 
has anyone ever stopped to think that maybe Trunks just bought his sword somewhere or something? There's nothing really special about it.

Y2J
 
Well it did manage to slice Frieza into a shishkebab so it must've been packing more power than your average blade. Hell even Zelda's sword couldn't pull off that ****.



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I don't believe in power levels after the Frieza Saga. :D
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I used to go to a catholic church but then i realized that i didnt agree with some of the teachings..so now i go to lutheran protestant..i dont really think of myself as any specific church in christianity..just consider myself a christian
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There could be a another reason, research for example. I met many, that converted to another way, just by doing research on their own. I always am, a great supporter of people who research believe, rather then picking 'facts' from other believers.
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To be honest it seems to be dominate in other religions as well. I guess the atheist ideology is just catching on with everyone.
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J-Smack, you know I was in that christian band for about two years. We played at all the major denomination's churches and they have plenty of people that have turned away due to different circumstances. It's not just a catholic thing. You live in a part of the country full of protestants. What I'm saying is that if one of them stops going to church, they have a lot more people trying to get them to come back than we do. We're the minority here.

Also, you're pretty much wrong on the bible thumping theory. At least in my experience. There ARE bible thumpers around, but they are still considered crazies even in the eyes of their own churches. I guess I'm just trying to say that most of the major denomonations don't interpret the bible word for word, they support science and evolution and encourage people to be accepting of gays and all that stuff. Baptists get the blamed for being the worst pretty often, but did you know most Baptist churches agree with evolution?

My band was made up of:

Baptist ---> A drummer who had a kid in high school, was recovering from drugs and going through a divorce.
Methodist ----> A singer who also was about to have a kid and struggling to get by. (but very intelligent)
Baptist ---> A guitar player who had been kicked out of his house when he graduated and was living with the singer and his girlfriend.
Non denominational --->An awesome bass player I'm friends with.
Catholic ----> And me. Because I grew up practicing the guitar and not doing drugs or having unprotected sex.

None of us were bible thumpers, none of us made people come to our churches. We just told our stories through *****ty punk-rock.
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My guess is that it's because of all the sex scandals, but I don't know.

To me it seems like Catholics are the most extreme Christians. They seem to hate gay people the most, they follow the Pope instead of the Bible/Jesus(not really being extreme, just not being proper Christians if you ask me), and the Pope says things which promote the spread of HIV.
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wolffanghameha
Sep 15 2011, 12:16 AM
My guess is that it's because of all the sex scandals, but I don't know.

To me it seems like Catholics are the most extreme Christians. They seem to hate gay people the most, they follow the Pope instead of the Bible/Jesus(not really being extreme, just not being proper Christians if you ask me), and the Pope says things which promote the spread of HIV.
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Pope Benedict XVI said in comments released Saturday that the use of condoms may be morally acceptable in some cases to prevent the spread of AIDS, possibly foreshadowing a shift in the Roman Catholic Church's stance on the issue.

The pope's remarks outline an exception to the church's long-held policy against the use of artificial contraception, including condoms.

The pontiff, speaking to the author of a book that will be published next week, cited the example of a prostitute.


http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2010/11/20/pope-says-condoms-may-be-ok-in-some-circumstances/

To be honest, the world is catching up with itself in some terms.


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I think every religion has its extremes. Catholicism being the oldest Christian denomination causes it to still use old customs that seem ridiculous such as purgatory and condom usage/what-not. Wolffang, back in the Middle Ages is when Catholics would blindly follow the Pope no matter what the circumstances. I'm Catholic, and I'm doing my best to not be bias, but I've never been taught to mistreat homosexuals or different religions than mine. Catholics are very excepting to everyone, and a lot of the Daily Missals (the book we read from during church) of many Catholic churches offer an invitation to non-Catholics and non-Christians alike.
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darkwarrior
 
has anyone ever stopped to think that maybe Trunks just bought his sword somewhere or something? There's nothing really special about it.

Y2J
 
Well it did manage to slice Frieza into a shishkebab so it must've been packing more power than your average blade. Hell even Zelda's sword couldn't pull off that ****.



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I don't believe in power levels after the Frieza Saga. :D
Now, there's an idea.
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wolffanghameha
Sep 15 2011, 12:16 AM
My guess is that it's because of all the sex scandals, but I don't know.

To me it seems like Catholics are the most extreme Christians. They seem to hate gay people the most, they follow the Pope instead of the Bible/Jesus(not really being extreme, just not being proper Christians if you ask me), and the Pope says things which promote the spread of HIV.
What the hell? I've been Catholic all my life have NEVER been taught to hate gays (or even told not to use condoms). If you'd actually do some first hand research instead of spreading stuff like this, it would be cool.

I'm not going to say that the Pope isn't the leader of our church, but he's the leader mostly in an organisational sense. This wasn't always the case, though so I can understand your viewpoints on this.
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I found contridictions in the bible and how God uses fear to make you worship him and decided I don't want to worship someone like that. I guess I'm an agnostic athiest.
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Yeah Catholicism is definitely the least how can I put it...aggresively religious group
About 90% of my town are Catholic, only the old people bother to go to church most people seem to say they're Catholic just so they're something or because their parents said that's what they are, half they time they don't know what they're saying they are

It seems that generally Christians are more avid in their belief out of people I know I've never heard of any Christians converting


I don't get the whole condoms thing why was it suddenly ok in some conditions? I really don't get that what makes the pope able to change whatever god finds wrong with contraception

And yeah About 37 Llamas it's things like that that make me not accept the thought of it easily even more so when people shout at me saying I'm going to hell because I don't believe, what good could that ever do? If I suddenly said I believe I'd be lying to myself
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I certainly don't agree with people doing that.
I laugh at the political Catholic stuff that goes on. "Oh, thanks for letting know that condoms aren't such a bad thing." I stick to the spiritual part myself and separate myself from most of the political stuff. Just because you belong to a certain religion does not mean you have to agree with every aspect of it.
Most Catholics are very accepting, though. I completely agree with their views on not forcing people to convert and telling them they're going to hell if they don't.
darkwarrior
 
has anyone ever stopped to think that maybe Trunks just bought his sword somewhere or something? There's nothing really special about it.

Y2J
 
Well it did manage to slice Frieza into a shishkebab so it must've been packing more power than your average blade. Hell even Zelda's sword couldn't pull off that ****.



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I don't believe in power levels after the Frieza Saga. :D
Now, there's an idea.
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I think that there's a huge misconception. A lot of people think that religions directly affect your perception while it is quite the opposite. I'm not a Christian, but I know for a fact that there is no where in the Bible where it says "GAYS ARE BAD, THEY NEED TO DIE." Only people's perceptions create that and I know that this is not the general belief of Catholics, or Protestants or any other branches of Christianity. As much as it simplifies things, a stereotype is not the best way to do it.

I think that people are beginning to think for themselves and have the right to choose for themselves. They should only belong to a religious if it matches up with their beliefs, not their parents' beliefs or any body else. Only their own. And this is promoting neither atheism nor any religion. I think people are beginning to think for themselves rather than letting others do it for them.
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songohanfrancais
Sep 16 2011, 04:16 AM
I think that there's a huge misconception. A lot of people think that religions directly affect your perception while it is quite the opposite. I'm not a Christian, but I know for a fact that there is no where in the Bible where it says "GAYS ARE BAD, THEY NEED TO DIE." Only people's perceptions create that and I know that this is not the general belief of Catholics, or Protestants or any other branches of Christianity. As much as it simplifies things, a stereotype is not the best way to do it.

I think that people are beginning to think for themselves and have the right to choose for themselves. They should only belong to a religious if it matches up with their beliefs, not their parents' beliefs or any body else. Only their own. And this is promoting neither atheism nor any religion. I think people are beginning to think for themselves rather than letting others do it for them.
It all depends on how you translate the bible. The old testament says that if a man sleeps with anthers man's wife then he should perish.

The New Testament says that sexual misconduct, as in sleeping around or being homosexual will get you a one way ticket to "hell", which is supposedly worse than death itself.

However some argue that the translation means it's an abomination and not a sin, therefor meaning it's just wrong but not "sin worthy". I translate it as it's read...

"Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor [a]effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10 nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God."

1 Corinthians 6:9^



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