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Topic Started: Sep 13 2011, 07:28 PM (1,019 Views)
NeoSSayajin
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All of them in 1 vs 1:

- Artificial Human 17
- Artificial Humans 17 and 18
- Imperfect Cell (post-absorptions)
- Kamiccolo
- Semi-Perfect Cell
- Base Goten (pre HTC)
- Pui Pui
- Kibito Kai
- Tapion
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super 13 beats all of them up to kamiccolo, as well as pui pui and tapion. semicell wins in a decent fight. goten stomps unless he's in a stupid costume that he has to avoid ripping, and kibito or kaioshin would stomp, much less kibitokai.
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I thinks:
Artificial Human 17: Win
Artificial Humans 17 and 18: Win
Imperfect Cell (post-absorptions): Win
Kamiccolo: This fight happened in the movie :P Win unless it's post time chamber in which caseeee... probably lose
Semi-Perfect Cell: Not sure, I have Super 13 somewhere around his level so I'm just gonna say Tie
- Base Goten (pre HTC): Win
- Pui Pui: Win
- Kibito Kai: Lose
- Tapion: Can't remember how strong Tapion is.
Edited by Clearin, Sep 13 2011, 07:49 PM.
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- Super 13 wins
- Super 13 wins
- Super 13 wins
- Super 13 wins
- A very tight battle, i would say Super 13 looses, since Semi-Imperfect Cell has a lot of techniques...But it would be very close...
- Goten takes this, but not so easy
- Pui Pui may win, not sure...
- Kibito wins
- I have Tapion stronger than Semi-Imperfect Cell, so...
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Super 13 vs. Artificial Human 17 = 13 wins
Super 13 Artificial Humans 17 and 18 = 13 wins
Super 13 Imperfect Cell (post-absorptions) = I think Cell would win, although it wouldn't be easy
Super 13 vs. Kamiccolo = Is this Pre or Post ROSAT? If it's Pre, Super 13 wins. Post, Super 13 loses.
Semi-Perfect Cell = 13 loses
- Base Goten (pre HTC) = 13 wins
- Pui Pui = Maybe Pui Pui...who knows?
- Kibito Kai = 13 loses
- Tapion = 13 probably loses
Edited by NaitoMaito, Sep 14 2011, 01:02 PM.
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lunar2
Sep 13 2011, 07:37 PM
super 13 beats all of them up to kamiccolo, as well as pui pui and tapion. semicell wins in a decent fight. goten stomps unless he's in a stupid costume that he has to avoid ripping, and kibito or kaioshin would stomp, much less kibitokai.
Tapion? :huh:

I dont know about that man... :errm:

He was entrusted to keep and hold hildegarn, everyone in movie 13 is ridiculously strong. Tapion ranks wayyyy above super 13 who couldnt even beat an untrained ssj, Let alone any mssj from the cell arc.
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Sep 14 2011, 02:57 AM
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Sep 13 2011, 07:37 PM
super 13 beats all of them up to kamiccolo, as well as pui pui and tapion. semicell wins in a decent fight. goten stomps unless he's in a stupid costume that he has to avoid ripping, and kibito or kaioshin would stomp, much less kibitokai.
Tapion? :huh:

I dont know about that man... :errm:

He was entrusted to keep and hold hildegarn, everyone in movie 13 is ridiculously strong. Tapion ranks wayyyy above super 13 who couldnt even beat an untrained ssj, Let alone any mssj from the cell arc.
tapion was locked in a music box. he wasn't entrusted with anything. tapion has no feats of power at all, only the partial ability to control hirudegarn, which isn't power related at all, more psychic ability.

i just can't bring myself to put tapion above frieza when he has no feats, and comes from a primitive mortal race with no indication of extraordinary power.
list of canon sources:

the DB manga, and the Dr. Slump manga as it applies to the crossover during the rra saga.

list of non canon sources:

everything else, regardless of origin, format, or quality.

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NeoSSayajin
Sep 13 2011, 07:28 PM
All of them in 1 vs 1:

- Artificial Human 17
- Artificial Humans 17 and 18
- Imperfect Cell (post-absorptions)
- Kamiccolo
- Semi-Perfect Cell
- Base Goten (pre HTC)
- Pui Pui
- Kibito Kai
- Tapion
- Artificial Human 17 : Super #13 wins.
- Artificial Humans 17 and 18 : Super #13 wins.
- Imperfect Cell (post-absorptions) : A Tie.
- Kamiccolo : Super #13 wins.
- Semi-Perfect Cell : Super #13 gets stomped.
- Base Goten (pre HTC) : Super #13 stomps him really bad.
- Pui Pui : Super 13# stomps him really really really bad.
- Kibito Kai : Super 13# loses.
- Tapion : Super 13# stomps him really really bad.
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Sep 14 2011, 12:25 PM
- Kibito Kai : Super 13# loses.
If you have Kibito a bit stronger than Frieza its not logical to put that he defeats Super 13, who in my lists is from 8x to 9x times stronger than Frieza...
Edited by NeoSSayajin, Sep 14 2011, 05:37 PM.
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Piccolo Daimao > Piccolo Jr.

NeoSSayajin
Sep 13 2011, 07:28 PM
All of them in 1 vs 1:

- Artificial Human 17
- Artificial Humans 17 and 18
- Imperfect Cell (post-absorptions)
- Kamiccolo
- Semi-Perfect Cell
- Base Goten (pre HTC)
- Pui Pui
- Kibito Kai
- Tapion
1.) Android Super 13 wins against Android 17.

2.) Same as '1'.

3.) I assume you mean, the Imperfect Seru, that fought against Android 16? I have them equal personally, but due to Seru's superior fighting knowledge as well as his vast majority of Ki techniques, he wins.

4.) He wins against Kamicolo.

5.) Semi-Perfected Seru wins.

6.) Son Goten loses, it'll be close though.

7.) Pui-Pui loses.

8.) Kibitoshin stomps.

9.) Tapion had no power feats, he loses IMO.
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He's stated weaker than Android 16 in a guidebook. That's good enough for me.
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what guidebook. i find it hard to believe that in the year that i've been here, and the hundred super 13 debates we've had, and no one ever mentioned a guidebook entry stating he's weaker than 16.
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the DB manga, and the Dr. Slump manga as it applies to the crossover during the rra saga.

list of non canon sources:

everything else, regardless of origin, format, or quality.

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I have, plenty of times. About #16:

"The strongest artificial human besides Cell. However, he has a gentle heart, and doesn't like to hurt things. Because of this, Doctor Gero regarded him as a failed creation. He gives the impression of a taciturn, silent giant. He resembles No. 8 in his gentleness, but is forever faithful to his duty to kill Goku."

This is the encyclopedia, so it includes everybody.

http://kanzentai.com/trans-daiz07.php?m=03&id=character_a-c#arificial_human_16
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Sep 15 2011, 05:03 AM
I have, plenty of times. About #16:

"The strongest artificial human besides Cell. However, he has a gentle heart, and doesn't like to hurt things. Because of this, Doctor Gero regarded him as a failed creation. He gives the impression of a taciturn, silent giant. He resembles No. 8 in his gentleness, but is forever faithful to his duty to kill Goku."

This is the encyclopedia, so it includes everybody.

http://kanzentai.com/trans-daiz07.php?m=03&id=character_a-c#arificial_human_16
Wow, I was actually thinking that Semi-Perfect Cell was way to high, but to be below 16 and still stomp Kamiccolo?
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it WASN'T kamiccolo, it was piccolo. why does everyone think that it's kamiccolo in movie seven, when the fusion is never mentioned? there is no cell in movie 7's timeline. 13,14, and 15 replace cell. kami ONLY agreed to fuse because of cell, because the androids hadn't done anything truly evil yet.
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everything else, regardless of origin, format, or quality.

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