Base Goku (Androids Saga) vs SSJ Mirai Trunks (Trunks Saga)

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Base Goku (Androids Saga) vs SSJ Mirai Trunks (Trunks Saga)
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oodle	Sep 11 2011, 01:46 PM Post #1
Posts: 349 Group: Member Member #6,186 Joined: May 12, 2011 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z, Code Geass	Goku can use kaioken.



+ Pelador	Sep 11 2011, 01:53 PM Post #2
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	No. Base Goku in the android saga would not be enough to beat that Trunks in base form. I doubt he could even defeat Freeza in his base form. His base power is no more than 10 million whereas Trunk's SSJ has to be at least 150 million.
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oodle	Sep 11 2011, 01:55 PM Post #3
Posts: 349 Group: Member Member #6,186 Joined: May 12, 2011 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z, Code Geass	Kaioken is allowed.... Goku's shown he can do a x20.



+ Pelador	Sep 11 2011, 01:58 PM Post #4
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	And Trunks' SSj multiplier is x50. Plus it doesn't damage his body and he can retain the form for hours at a time. Trunks brushes it off and resumes giving Goku a severe beating.
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lunar2	Sep 11 2011, 04:32 PM Post #5
Posts: 9,150 Group: Member Member #5,265 Joined: September 24, 2010 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime dragonball/z/gt/movies What Browser do you use? internet explorer or firefox	or, if you used a progression rate instead of picking numbers out of thin air, goku could be much stronger. example: 2x increase per year. basically lowest possible progression rate. trunks saga goku: 4,000,000 1 year 8,000,000 2 year 16,000,000 android 32,000,000 32,000,000 base. kkx5 puts him on trunks level, and goku can go all the way to x20. but even with your 10,000,000 base, pelador. kkx20 is 200,000,000. that's easily one shot territory against trunks. goku may only get one or 2 hits in, but with that kind of power advantage, that's all he'll need.
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+ Clearin	Sep 11 2011, 04:45 PM Post #6
Posts: 12,580 Group: Elite Member Member #6,372 Joined: June 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom	I think Goku would be 140,000,000 with Kaioken x20 and I have Trunks a bit stronger than that so imma say Trunks wins



+ Pelador	Sep 11 2011, 05:34 PM Post #7
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	Why would Goku get a 2x increase per year? You're telling me I'm pulling numbers out of thin air when you're basically doing the same. You really think strength increases through training are as simple as x2 his power a year? I admit it's certainly possible for Goku to have increased his power dramatically over three years just by sparring with Gohan and Picollo. After all, Picollo became 10x stronger by sparring with Gohan for less than a year in the Saiyan saga. So it's plausible that Goku could have made a huge gain in three years. And Picollo definately showed ridiculous improvements by the Android saga. However, Picollo is a Namek and Goku is a Saiyan. They might recieve different benefits from this type of training method. Goku didn't make gains like Picollo did after all. In fact Picollo seemed to be far stronger than the Saiyan's base forms at this point. Considering they had to transform to take on the Androids and Picollo didn't. So yeah, Picollo definately got more out of it than Goku did. I think 2x a year is too simplistic. So I just add a couple of million to his existing power level because I don't think he gained that much power from sparring compared to Picollo.
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lunar2	Sep 11 2011, 05:50 PM Post #8
Posts: 9,150 Group: Member Member #5,265 Joined: September 24, 2010 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime dragonball/z/gt/movies What Browser do you use? internet explorer or firefox	but even with the 10 million you give goku, that's more than enough to godstomp trunks. and there's nothing suggesting that different races get different benefits from the same training. if goku had been put in the same situation as piccolo (training with an ssj without a similar transformation), then goku would have made the same improvement. hell, he DID make the same improvement in the rosat, when he had an ssj training partner.
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Wolf	Sep 11 2011, 06:07 PM Post #9
Shadow Realm > Posts: 5,538 Group: Street Fighter Member #6,410 Joined: June 27, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country South Africa Favourite Anime Berserk What Browser do you use? 18+ Favourite Manga Berserk	I think power levels just ruin the fights. Honestly, it'd be a tough fight for Goku. He would have to get it everything in his body to beat Trunks but, Overall, I would pick Trunks to win. If he can use his sword.
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+ Pelador	Sep 11 2011, 06:18 PM Post #10
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	I don't think his kaioken x20 would have been enough to take down Trunks. i'm not even sure he could use it anymore after learning SSJ anyway. Plus Trunks would take him out before he even got the chance to use it. Goku never goes all out stright away and Trunks does.
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~~Paikuan extreme~~	Sep 11 2011, 06:34 PM Post #11
Posts: 5,568 Group: Suspended Member #5,921 Joined: March 29, 2011 Favourite Anime dbz What Browser do you use? ie9 Favourite Manga akira	how many times has this been done? really? base form against trunks? cmon now...



Fourth Doctor Who	Sep 11 2011, 07:22 PM Post #12
Mark of the Crimson Dragon Posts: 671 Group: Member Member #4,214 Joined: May 28, 2009 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragon Ball, Yu-Gi-Oh! and Bleah What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Pokemon and Bleach	I'd say in a fight-wise SSJ Trunks will win the fight even Kaio-ken x20 Son Goku. However Kaio-ken x20 Kamehameha could be in Son Goku's favor to beat SSJ Trunks. [Additional Comments Adding even more to the fight, the characters in DBZ can read opponents fightining moves. Son Goku (Android Saga) will surely know SSJ Trunks' sword fighting moves and dodge/block them like he did since their last fight. Edited by Fourth Doctor Who, Sep 11 2011, 07:37 PM.



lunar2	Sep 11 2011, 07:26 PM Post #13
Posts: 9,150 Group: Member Member #5,265 Joined: September 24, 2010 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime dragonball/z/gt/movies What Browser do you use? internet explorer or firefox	well, beyond everything that's been said so far, i think every android arc character from krillin on up could beat ssj trunks without his sword, although if he had his sword, it would take at least android arc base trunks.
	list of canon sources: the DB manga, and the Dr. Slump manga as it applies to the crossover during the rra saga. list of non canon sources: everything else, regardless of origin, format, or quality. for those that blindly follow word of god


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