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Bardock (Pre Zenkai) v Nappa
Topic Started: Sep 10 2011, 08:29 AM (580 Views)
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Who wins?
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Pre-zenkai? Meaning before he was healed the one time in the movie? He would get toppled by Nappa Auto Parts. I don't see him being more than 4,000 before his zenkai, and that's what I have Nappa's resting level at, so yeah.
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Wasn't Bardock class-rank lower than Nappa before the zenkai? If so then Nappa wins the fight-wise.
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Class doesn't mean much in the long run. Bardock was nearing the king in power, so he was definitely above Nappa.
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before zenkai he was like 3k nappa with weights and being cocky was at 4k and if he really needed he could just jump to like 6k
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Sep 11 2011, 07:56 PM
Class doesn't mean much in the long run. Bardock was nearing the king in power, so he was definitely above Nappa.
I know but I don't want to explain how I got the class idea for Bardock though. 6,000-8,000 seems plausible for pre-zenkai Bardock so i'll reverse what I said before and say Bardock will win. Beside I haven't done power level on Bardock movie yet but I have Venom9808's power level video on it though.

From Venom9808 PL video.

Bardock (pre-Zenkai) - 7,500
(Oozaru) - 75,000
(Post-Zenkai) - 10,000

I guess someone besides you and me know who would win. ;)
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but bardock never got a zenkai in the movie. his body was never injured until dodoria blasted him, and he never healed from that. therefore, no zenkai. bardock had the same "near 10,000" pl the entire movie, except as oozaru.
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Sep 11 2011, 08:40 PM
but bardock never got a zenkai in the movie. his body was never injured until dodoria blasted him, and he never healed from that. therefore, no zenkai. bardock had the same "near 10,000" pl the entire movie, except as oozaru.
You're forgetting his encounter on Planet Meat. He couldn't have been healed if he wasn't injured. That's where we're told of his "near 10,000" level, after all.
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planet meat is where dodoria blasts him. he wasn't healed after that. you're thinking about after kanassa. on kanassa he wasn't injured, just knocked out by a psychic attack. bardock was only injured by dodoria throughout the entire special.
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Sep 11 2011, 09:41 PM
planet meat is where dodoria blasts him. he wasn't healed after that. you're thinking about after kanassa. on kanassa he wasn't injured, just knocked out by a psychic attack. bardock was only injured by dodoria throughout the entire special.
The doctors seemed to think he was injured enough for a zenkai then, I guess, since they said he comes back half-dead every time, which would indicate he got one this time as well.
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Yes, I definitely got the impression he received a zenkai after Kanassa.
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Isnt he in a recovery chamber when his crew went to Meat? Wouldnt that mean he was injured enough to receive a zenkai?

anyways i think Nappa wins
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Yeah, I don't see a point to him being in the chamber unless he needed it.
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i think it was just for diagnostics. they did say that physically he was fine, but his brainwaves were weird. also, how did he go from completely uninjured to half dead on a planet cleared of all life-forms? did his team beat the crap out of him on the ride home? also, i think the half dead statement was just made in general, not about that specific time.
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Sep 12 2011, 04:38 AM
i think it was just for diagnostics. they did say that physically he was fine, but his brainwaves were weird. also, how did he go from completely uninjured to half dead on a planet cleared of all life-forms? did his team beat the crap out of him on the ride home? also, i think the half dead statement was just made in general, not about that specific time.
The half-dead comment was only in the dub, my bad. What's really said is this:

Doctor #1: "Burdock is as surprising as ever. It's only taken him several days to fully recover."
Doctor #2: "Yeah. He may be a low class warrior, but every time he goes off to clear some land, he always manages to get nearly killed before returning."
Doctor #1: "By now, his battle power should be pretty close to 10,000."
Doctor #2: "He's quite a guy."

So we know he took several days to recover from something, at least. Maybe it was just his head being messed up, but the Doctor #2 makes it seem as if he was messed up enough in some way that he needed to be healed, and Doctor #1 implies that Bardock's power wasn't as high beforehand.

Doctor #2 does state that physically Bardock is perfectly fine and that his brain waves are fluctuating, so that's correct.

As a side-note, I love how in the dub, Tora says goodbye to Bardock, but in the original he just answers the doctor's question of which planet they're headed to. FUNi really wanted the Saiyans to appear less like militant *****, I guess. :rofl:
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