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100% Frieza vs. Base Goku (Buu Saga)
Topic Started: Sep 5 2011, 09:42 PM (10,909 Views)
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LionFangFist
Sep 6 2011, 10:20 PM
ah i see you just ignore a certain translation that goes against the way you think and choose to accept a different. can't really argue anything with someone that does that
I can't really argue with someone who goes with Viz over the original Japanese manga.
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oh? i thought we stopped talking about canon when the bardock movie was brought up
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You should stop being so critical :/ Not everyone can know everything about DBZ. He posted a legit quote from the Viz manga. It's not like every single dbz fan has seems Herms strength guide and therefore doesn't know which lines are real or just Viz edits. Even knowing what's canon and what's anime filler makes someone a little above the casual dbz fan imo. I bet 75% of DBZ fans have never even read the manga.
Maybe you should stop telling people what to do.

I was giving advice, not being critical.
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Sep 6 2011, 10:30 PM
oh? i thought we stopped talking about canon when the bardock movie was brought up
That's not the point. You were using the American adaptation of the manga (key word: adaptation) with your Raditz quote, and I countered with the original Japanese version, which takes priority over any copy, adaptation, translation, etc. since it is the original version.
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you brought up the bardock movie which a;lso isnt canon, so shouldn't that be ignored if we're going with strictly original. if that is ignored then there really is no basis of why you think saiyans DON'T train
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It's like with the Movies/Specials and taking the Funimation Script over the Japanese Script.

The Japanese Script takes priority over the Funimation every time.
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Sep 6 2011, 10:34 PM
you brought up the bardock movie which a;lso isnt canon, so shouldn't that be ignored if we're going with strictly original. if that is ignored then there really is no basis of why you think saiyans DON'T train
I brought up the Bardock special because you were using the anime, which is non-canon. When you brought up the manga line, I brought up the original. So what do you want here? Anime or manga?
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You should stop being so critical :/ Not everyone can know everything about DBZ. He posted a legit quote from the Viz manga. It's not like every single dbz fan has seems Herms strength guide and therefore doesn't know which lines are real or just Viz edits. Even knowing what's canon and what's anime filler makes someone a little above the casual dbz fan imo. I bet 75% of DBZ fans have never even read the manga.
Maybe you should stop telling people what to do.

I was giving advice, not being critical.
You were being harsh. It's not like he posted a made up quote. He posted a real quote from the Manga, you shouldn't just look down at him for that and even claim that what he's saying is "laughable" because he never decided to look up if the quote was in the original Japanese manga. The manga does indeed say Saiyans trained, however it wasn't the original Japanese manga that said that. You expect fans to know every single line in Japanese before signing onto a fan board? How do you think fans will feel if they watch the series, want to come to discuss what they enjoyed, and then they get mean comments for not researching every little thing about the series first?

If you're going to give advice then maybe you could be a little nicer about it.
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I give it in my own way, if you can't accept how I do things, than it's your problem not mine.

And I'm not looking down on him, if I was looking down on him, I would have said something like, "People like you never learn".

So, don't go around telling people what to do!

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i didn't start talking about the anime until you brought up bardock i said and i quote "oh? i thought this was a manga disscussion but if we're going by anime, Raditz says they train". so lets use the manga
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Okay, in the manga, Raditz never says Saiyans train. He tells Goku not to fight him with an incomplete battle power, and that's where my random guess quote came in.

Even more, Freeza was afraid of the Saiyans because they were getting too strong. Do you think he would allow them to train, yet still sit and be afraid of them? That doesn't make sense.
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Frieza killed the saiyans when he became afraid of them. and your guess is that sauiyans reach some kinda limit soon?
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Sep 6 2011, 10:40 PM
I give it in my own way, if you can't accept how I do things, than it's your problem not mine.

And I'm not looking down on him, if I was looking down on him, I would have said something like, "People like you never learn".

So, don't go around telling people what to do!
Fine then be a roody-poo to people. I really don't give a flying banana, if you want to make new users feel bad go right ahead. But maybe someday you'll learn how to respect people instead of saying "REALLY!?! If you keep saying stuff like that people will shrug it off and laugh at it because it's not from the official manga"

How dare people not read the whole manga in Japanese and watch the entire anime in subs before coming onto a fan board!
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Lastly, I don't expect fans to know everything, but if someone is going to make claims, they should know what the're saying (In any Thread), and better be able to back it up. I don't hold hands, and if anyone expects it, then they don't belong on a forum...or at least around me, because I won't do it.
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Ugh, sorry I just got a bit carried away there... I just don't want the more casual fans to be driven away on their first week or something =\

Anyway nothing in the original manga says anything about Saiyans training as far as I know. Maybe it does in one of the guides? If not then it's anyone's guess. I'd think they would though considering they're space warriors and all. Vegeta didn't seem to act as if training was anything new afterall.
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