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100% Frieza vs. Base Goku (Buu Saga)
Topic Started: Sep 5 2011, 09:42 PM (10,911 Views)
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Actually it goes against the MSS Training and normal progression rates. Because this is Goku's Training post Namek...

Goku Trains for Several Months, then Trains for Three Years, then Trains for less than a year blowing his Three year and some argue his Namek Progression out of the water, then Trains for 7 years increasing his MSS then gaining SS2 then increasing that then turning SS3.

Well MSS power is Base power, also SS2 power is MSS power and that's Base power, the same series with SS3 too. So, whatever progression any of Goku's SS level is, his Base increases at the very SAME rate as it too. After the x50 there isn't some magical number for SS only, of course there's a Multiplier for SS2 and SS3, but for the standard SS there isn't a magical number after that. So, I honestly don't see how Goku's Base would be THAT weak after about 12 years (Give or take a few or several months) of Training post Namek.
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Edited by LionFangFist, Sep 6 2011, 02:37 AM.
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Goku takes this without any problems.
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Sep 6 2011, 01:38 AM
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Sep 6 2011, 01:18 AM
incomplete battle power means his power isnt complete. that obviously means he isnt fully or completely trained. "incomplete power" doesnt equal "weaker than me"
There's no such thing as being fully or completely trained. In Z, the more people train, the stronger they get, no matter what.
Not completely true, remember when Vegeta/Goku were training to beat Cell, they couldn't get much stronger without losing speed because they couldn't figure out how to take the next step (SSJ2).

But yeh, most of the time what you said applies.
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Base Goku post RoSaT would Roflstomp Freeza into oblivion going by my numbers lol.
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Sep 6 2011, 01:51 AM
my point is that there some kind of standard of power with the saiyans thats obtained somehow (through training ofcourse) and raditz was saying goku was incomplete as in he hadnt done the training to reach that standard
You don't seem to understand that Saiyans don't train. They're either on missions or screwing around (as seen in the Bardock TV special).
The very first time I mentioned that movie on this board you were the one to point out to me that it's non-canon ._.

Anyway I think Goku could do it. He might have mid-low difficulty though.
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The Special is yes, however it's the only thing we really have to go buy other than the very vague lines from Raditz and Vegeta...that's really it, so I can see why he would be inclined to mention the Special.
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vague lines? it may have been vague in the manga but in the anime Raditz point blank says Saiyans train
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I didn't notice so in the Japanese script, and Japanese Script>American Script. So unless I missed it in the subs.
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Yeah, I'd also like to see where in the anime Raditz directly states that Saiyans train, because I never saw it.
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It doesn't exist, all he says is Goku's power level in incomplete...that's it.

Before that Raditz talks about what Saiyans do, and that's going from planet to planet killing everyone on it and selling it to the highest bidder.
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From what I know of Saiyan information, none of it says Saiyans trained.
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oh sry looks like i was wrong about it being in the anime it was in the manga. i just remember reading it somewhere that raditz said they trained, heres a link to a guy repeating what i said raditz said, go down to you see the username "Tactics"
http://www.pojo.biz/board/showthread.php?p=19844528
appearently its on pg 52 of vol. 1 viz manga. Raditz states "And also, please... Don't make the mistake of trying to fight me. Even if you had the power to challenge me, you haven't a fraction of the necessary training."
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That site isn't reliable, it's a fanslation. Which means a fan Translated it, and it isn't the real Translated VIZ.
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