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100% Frieza vs. Base Goku (Buu Saga)
Topic Started: Sep 5 2011, 09:42 PM (10,905 Views)
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has base Goku ever done anything to prove he's stronger than Frieza?
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None of the Base Saiyans have. You just have to go with power progression and what you think the multipliers are. For me, I can't seem to get Goku below Freeza at this point.
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Vegeta's first RosaT as baseform was at the androids powerlevels. Goku during the cell games was alot stronger than him ,meaning that he would crush them. Even a stronger version of him , hmm it's really a huge stomp imo.
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i just think its kinda stupid any saiyan could surpass Frieza with any lifetime possible amount of training. i don't think they're are multipliers i think that a base saiyan has its limit and the super saiyan is what they continuously incredibly stronger. i mean if just training for years would make you as powerful as Frieza i dont think he would have been the Ruler of the Universe for very long
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LionFangFist
Sep 5 2011, 09:55 PM
i just think its kinda stupid any saiyan could surpass Frieza with any lifetime possible amount of training. i don't think they're are multipliers i think that a base saiyan has its limit and the super saiyan is what they continuously incredibly stronger. i mean if just training for years would make you as powerful as Frieza i dont think he would have been the Ruler of the Universe for very long
Well, exactly. He was only the ruler because all the living beings hadn't trained so rigorously until Goku and the others came into the picture.
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what no even goku and his pals paled in comparison to Frieza until Goku became a super saiyan
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That's not the point I was making.

Even Freeza wasn't that great in the whole scheme of things. He was only ruler because everybody more powerful than him either didn't care or didn't know about him (like Yakon, Dabra, Pui-Pui).
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Yeah. Freeza was just an overlord in one small part of the universe.

As for the versus, Goku kicks Freeza lightly in the neck and shatters every bone in his body and liquidates his internal organs.
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i just mean if all it really took to surpass Frieza was many years of training i dont think he would have been able to be ruler. the gap between him and all other being must have been impossible to close (except with the legendary super saiyan) or else there's no way he couldve been ruler. and saiyans knew about frieza, they train all day everyday im sure if all it took to surpass Frieza was hard rigorous training for some years then one would have done it
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Sep 5 2011, 10:15 PM
i just mean if all it really took to surpass Frieza was many years of training i dont think he would have been able to be ruler. the gap between him and all other being must have been impossible to close (except with the legendary super saiyan) or else there's no way he couldve been ruler. and saiyans knew about frieza, they train all day everyday im sure if all it took to surpass Frieza was hard rigorous training for some years then one would have done it
They didn't know how to properly train, and they certainly didn't abuse the zenkai process like Goku and Vegeta did.
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but goku and vegeta's zenkai meant nothing in the fight against frieza the only thing that played a part was goku turning super saiyan and are you saying that absolutely no saiyan knew how to train? where'd u get that from
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Base Goku swats Frieza away like a fly
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LionFangFist
Sep 5 2011, 10:27 PM
but goku and vegeta's zenkai meant nothing in the fight against frieza the only thing that played a part was goku turning super saiyan and are you saying that absolutely no saiyan knew how to train? where'd u get that from
Because it was made a point in the early sagas of the series that nobody knew how to train properly (except Roshi and the other authoritative figures), which is why they needed Korin and Kami's training. And when have you ever seen or heard of a normal Saiyan training?
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goku will own frieza cause gohan beat him with one punch at his normal state
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i remember Raditz saying something like "even if you have our blood you haven't a fraction of the training" to goku. which means Saiyans train
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