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| Was Trunks so stupid in the end of the Android Saga? | |
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| + supersaqer | Sep 5 2011, 08:14 AM Post #1 |
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Was he so stupid? Because he had the USSJ transformation and he hasn't used it against Semi-Perfect Cell. If he used it against him, Cell would be dead after 3 minutes after the transformation to USSJ. He could get 18# out of Cell before Cell completely transform, like when Gohan in SSJ2 did to Cell. I think USSJ is near to SSJ2 in strength. Do you guys think that my opinion about Trunks is right or wrong? Discuss it in here. Edited by supersaqer, Sep 5 2011, 08:26 AM.
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| J-Smack | Sep 5 2011, 08:23 AM Post #2 |
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Well, if I understand you correctly, it seemed to take Trunks a while to power up to USSJ, which would not really give him enough time to beat semi-perfect Cell before Vegeta allowed him to absorb 18. I certainly don't think that he could have beaten Perfect Cell as an USSJ, especially since he pretty much lost when this same battle occurred. Lastly, I don't put USSJ on the same level as SSJ2. |
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| Balthazor | Sep 5 2011, 10:30 AM Post #3 |
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The ussj multi is around 1.5 if you ask me,pretty damn close to x 2 for the SSJ2 multi. Bu trunks was just too late,he should've been the one to handle cell. |
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| Piccolami | Sep 5 2011, 01:55 PM Post #4 |
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Do you mean when he refused to use his USSJ against cell because he was afraid it would hurt his fathers pride? If you are referring to this then I agree I think Trunks was stupid. Vegeta and Trunks could have kicked semi perfects cells but when they were ascended saiyans but Vegeta wanted to fight Cell at full power |
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| Kalea_The_Saiyan | Sep 5 2011, 03:38 PM Post #5 |
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It was because USSJ gives you a choice between more power and less speed, or less power and more speed. It's not as great as it looks. also, he didn't want to hurt his father's pride by using it in front of him. |
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| * Yu Narukami | Sep 5 2011, 04:22 PM Post #6 |
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It wouldn't have made a difference. He tried to stop Cell but was stopped by Cell's Energy Field. USSJ wouldn't have made a difference. Plus, ASSJ was plenty enough to beat Semi-Perfect Cell. |
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Sep 5 2011, 04:32 PM Post #7 |
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Trunks ONLY mistake was BELIEVING he had found the answer, hiding the form to keep from hurting his fathers pride is a little too dumb of a reason to NOT practice and get some time in on that form, if anything he might have found a way to increase his speed and bulk DOWN just a little to move better.otherwise the ki weighting put trunks muscles up to arnold size and he was too small to be that big. So yeah trunks was dumb to not practice in that form. But the USSJ was deemed to big and sloppy by goku who wanted to maintain speed and agility instead, but trunks had MORE than enough time to practice that form, NOT knowing that vegeta had managed to almost achieve what he wanted to do. By applying some of that ussj strength to his ASSJ form he was able to put himself up to over 50% of gokus full power mssj. Which actually testifies to exactly HOW strong goku really got and makes you wonder what he could have done further had he NOT concentrated (so much) on transforming gohan into such a beast. Im a firm believer the ussj form could have been whittled down to a acceptable size and used for what it was needed. Even initial perfect cell said trunks could beat him down, if he could hit him. |
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Sep 5 2011, 04:40 PM Post #8 |
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Trunks could have finished Semi-Perfect Cell off without the form. His father was the dumb one to be honest. Letting Cell get to the android for a better challenge. Personally I don't think it would have made a difference because he hardly gains any speed at all even though his strength becomes comparable to MSSJ Goku. Vegeta could have done the same thing, if that's what it would have taken for Cell to absorb the android as planned. |
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| + supersaqer | Sep 5 2011, 05:18 PM Post #9 |
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I agree with most of what have you said, but if Trunks went to USSJ wouldn't that break up the field and would be able to hit Cell with all of his powers and after that Cell spit out #18? I think USSJ's Multiplier is about x3 and SSJ2 is x4. His strength is more than enough to take out Cell, but his speed is even lower that that of a Super Saiyan, let alone ASSJ. |
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| * Yu Narukami | Sep 5 2011, 05:26 PM Post #10 |
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If Trunks actually got close to hitting Cell, Cell would've stopped surpressing his power so much. And the USSJ form wouldn't have helped break through the barrier. USSJ helps give the person more brute strength, there's no known ki increase. Brute Strength wouldn't have helped break through the barrier at all. If Trunks had taken the time to turn USSJ, Cell's transformation would've been complete just as Trunks' had finished. Overall it would've been pointless. |
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| + Pyrus | Sep 5 2011, 06:19 PM Post #11 |
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There is a ki increase, or Trunks wouldn't have been more powerful than the Cell that trounced Vegeta. |
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| + Steve | Sep 5 2011, 06:28 PM Post #12 |
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I think USSJ is close to SSJ2 in brute strength, remember Gohan was more powerful than Trunks anyway it's only natural that he would be a heck load more powerful And yeah it would have taken him too long to do it, but I think not wanting to hrut Vegeta's feelings was a bull***** reason and clearly a plot device |
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| TheStormPow | Sep 5 2011, 06:44 PM Post #13 |
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This. Trunks was always really focused on getting the job done, since he knew that the fate of the world depended on defeating Cell and the Androids. I'm pretty sure that if it wasn't for the purpose of making the saga longer (and more epic) he would have taken Cell out when he had the chance, and let Vegeta just deal with it. |
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Sep 5 2011, 06:46 PM Post #14 |
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Vegeta could easily do the same transformation if he wanted to. Trunks would have finished Cell off for sure if it wasn't for Vegeta's hunger for battle. |
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Sep 5 2011, 07:08 PM Post #15 |
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I always thought that ASSJ and MSSJ were stronger than USSJ... :P |
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