Can we ever achieve universal peace?

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Can we ever achieve universal peace?
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+ Pelador	Sep 3 2011, 09:15 PM Post #1
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	Is it possible for mankind to one day achieve a long lasting, universal peace across the entire globe? I.E, no war or conflict anywhere on the planet. I like to think that maybe, some time in the distant future, government attitudes across the globe may have matured to such an extent that all disputes could be solved via diplomacy and civilised debate. Reason being, just 100 years ago war was seen as something glorious and exciting. Like if you could make an empire, it made your country great. Whereas nowadays, even small conflicts are viewed as something which we don't really want. Plus, the amount of conflict going on at the moment is going to make people even more war weary than they've been in the past. Further reducing the amount of wars and battles occuring througout the world. Plus the tyrants are starting to disappear too. So I think that in about 150, 200 years, we might not have any wars going on at all.
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DanielSan	Sep 3 2011, 09:26 PM Post #2
Posts: 1,536 Group: Donator Member #5,730 Joined: February 14, 2011	Well it is possible but it is also very unlikely. The way the world is now I think it will be very hard. There are billions of people on this planet. Not everyone is going to want peace, and there will mostly be one person that wants to take over. If people are making death threats to politicians allowing homosexual marriage or threats for the politicians allowing some religious thing then how in the world will be achieve total world peace? You will never get billions of people to agree to something, heck you can even get 100 most times. There will always be religion, and different political parties in the world and different countries so that means there will always be disagreements and a few times that leads to war.



+ Pelador	Sep 3 2011, 09:34 PM Post #3
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	But don't you think that there is far less extremism today than there was say back in the middle ages? Don't you think there is far less aggression and petty reasons for war than ever before? Because I think I can really see a reduction compared to several centuries ago. Far less hate and ignorance than ever in my opinion. And with ever increasing levels of education, wealth and communication, I can see it getting even better.
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* Yu Narukami	Sep 3 2011, 09:35 PM Post #4
Izanagi! Posts: 12,330 Group: Retired Staff Member #6,446 Joined: July 3, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None	I personally don't think it's possible. I believe Universal peace is an idea that is incomprehendable to human beings. For a while now, countries have felt the need to get into wars when they could have been evaded. Peace Talks are much better than wars, but I think violence and conflict are fundamentals in human beings. There has always been conflict, there always will be. Then again, I'm looking from a 2000 point of view. Things may be different in 2100. I honestly don't know if we can.



DanielSan	Sep 3 2011, 09:36 PM Post #5
Posts: 1,536 Group: Donator Member #5,730 Joined: February 14, 2011	I do agree that it will keep getting better and better over the years but it will never be 100 percent world peace though. Back in the middle ages was very violent compared to now.



SirParagon	Sep 4 2011, 12:02 AM Post #6
Sparking! Posts: 808 Group: Duplicate Member #6,577 Joined: August 7, 2011 Favourite Anime Baccano, Mushi-shi, Excel Saga, NHK What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Berserk	Conflict can only be ended by ensuring a fair, peaceful upbringing for the new generations. Much of a persons' behavioural tendencies are shaped during childhood. Too bad this is a near impossible task to achieve for the whole of humanity. Also realise that violence and the state go hand in hand. Edited by SirParagon, Sep 4 2011, 12:04 AM.
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Fulgore	Sep 4 2011, 12:50 AM Post #7
The Darkness Returns Posts: 3,163 Group: Member Member #5,205 Joined: September 2, 2010	It's never possible. As long as there is humans, there is war. Our ambition is endless
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SirParagon	Sep 4 2011, 01:17 AM Post #8
Sparking! Posts: 808 Group: Duplicate Member #6,577 Joined: August 7, 2011 Favourite Anime Baccano, Mushi-shi, Excel Saga, NHK What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Berserk	Fulgore Sep 4 2011, 12:50 AM It's never possible. As long as there is humans, there is war. Our ambition is endless I take it you're referring to 'human nature'? That might hold up if humans weren't adaptable. The scope of human nature is always shifting.
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TheStormPow	Sep 4 2011, 01:32 AM Post #9
The Thing Chi-Chi Keeps in Her Drawer Posts: 170 Group: Member Member #6,268 Joined: May 27, 2011 Favourite Anime Nichijou What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	I mean.. Physically and technically, it's possible. But realistically, it's not. The world is too big for everyone to just agree on everything. Frankly, the only way I can think of to get everyone to think the same way is to have one supreme ruler over the rule, who would have to rule over with an iron fist (as in, if you did anything remotely against his rules, you were severely punished/killed). And even if that were the case, some people would rebel. People will always have different views on things, and there will always be people who do things just to cause a *****storm. The closest to universal peace that is even semi-plausible would be all the nations just agreeing to stop fighting, but even that is extremely unlikely, at least not in any near future. And it probably wouldn't even last for long; at one point some country would do something that would piss another off, and the two countries would go into war. Country A would ask Country C to help them fight Country B. If Country C agrees to help Country A, then now Countries A & C are enemies with B. If Country C doesn't help Country A, then Country A is now enemies with B & C. tldr; Basically it's impossible, and wouldn't last for more than a decade
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SirParagon	Sep 4 2011, 01:48 AM Post #10
Sparking! Posts: 808 Group: Duplicate Member #6,577 Joined: August 7, 2011 Favourite Anime Baccano, Mushi-shi, Excel Saga, NHK What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Berserk	TheStormPow Sep 4 2011, 01:32 AM I mean.. Physically and technically, it's possible. But realistically, it's not. The world is too big for everyone to just agree on everything. Frankly, the only way I can think of to get everyone to think the same way is to have one supreme ruler over the rule, who would have to rule over with an iron fist (as in, if you did anything remotely against his rules, you were severely punished/killed). And even if that were the case, some people would rebel. People will always have different views on things, and there will always be people who do things just to cause a ***storm. The closest to universal peace that is even semi-plausible would be all the nations just agreeing to stop fighting, but even that is extremely unlikely, at least not in any near future. And it probably wouldn't even last for long; at one point some country would do something that would piss another off, and the two countries would go into war. Country A would ask Country C to help them fight Country B. If Country C agrees to help Country A, then now Countries A & C are enemies with B. If Country C doesn't help Country A, then Country A is now enemies with B & C. tldr; Basically it's impossible, and wouldn't last for more than a decade Tyrannical dictatorships don't work either, obviously. Like I said before, sustainable social change can only be achieved through the new generations, just like it has always been achieved. Definitely not realistic in the short term, but we're all capable of playing a part. Edited by SirParagon**, Sep 4 2011, 01:53 AM.
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~~Espionage~~	Sep 4 2011, 06:00 AM Post #11
Posts: 130 Group: GTFO Member #6,345 Joined: June 11, 2011	It's possible and I hope we do. Endings of dictatorships such as Egypt, Libya, etc makes me believe we're doing things right. Though on a local level it's impossible. Stopping people from killing themselves is something that will never happen in my opinion.



Cal	Sep 4 2011, 06:32 AM Post #12
I may not deserve to live, but I will protect those in my reach with my reverse blade! Posts: 5,259 Group: Member Member #6,087 Joined: April 25, 2011 Gender Female Favourite Anime hentai What Browser do you use? hentaibrowser Favourite Manga hentai	It pretty much depends on what your definition of world peace is. If you think people are going to prance in hand singing love tunes you're crazy. The only realistic way for world peace is to have one nation where everyone is truly equal. That will never happen in my opinion though.



Arkadom	Sep 4 2011, 06:46 AM Post #13
Bargle nawdle zouss Posts: 3,774 Group: Member Member #5,620 Joined: January 12, 2011 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Dragon Ball, Naruto, Shaman King What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Shaman King, Naruto, Blue Exorcist, Bleach, Pokemon Adventures	As much as I hope, the thing is if technology advances enough, some people will get more pissed and get even better Tech and so on. So unless we go and destroy government war weapons, it wont happen in this millenia. Though it would be nice. I'll never see it though.
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DanielSan	Sep 6 2011, 05:02 AM Post #14
Posts: 1,536 Group: Donator Member #5,730 Joined: February 14, 2011	Ok my last 2 posts weren't as informative as I wanted to be; so I decided to write something a bit more informative, and show you guys more proof on why I don't think it is possible. 1. Let's think of all the wars and conflict that happened since 1900. We had world war 1, world war 2, the cold war, and many other small wars going on in many countries. The United States is still spending lots of money on it's armies, navies, air forces, and marines. Billions and Billions on weapons. We got into wars that we really didn't need to but we did anyway. We are just getting out of that. 2. Through out all of history I can say from year 1 to now there has always been war. Always. We have fought for power many times through out history. The only thing that has change is the weapons and tech. The only reason it has been happening maybe less often is fear of a nuclear war. 3. Alot of the nation leaders and politicians are only trying to do what is best for their country and only their country. As long as it is like that it would be hard to make peace with everyone. 4. The world right now is still pretty violent, racist, sexist, homophobic, and still critical. Though it has gotten better since we are getting more educated but we will never be perfect. 5. Some people don't even want world peace. If you ask those 200 countries in the world if they want world peace I can say that at least 1 of them will say to their face no. 6. Since about 200 countries are on the planet right now means that there is 200 different ways of thinking. 200 different ways of problem solving and 200 ways of dealing with things. What I mean is that we will not always agree. Heck look in the USA. We are fighting over being Liberal and Conservative. There has been deaths because of that and fights because of that. There can be many different political parties in just one country or state. People will always fight even within the same exact party. If all this is going on in a single country, state, or even a city just think of this on a planetary scale. As long as there are disagreements there will be war. In order to think world peace is possible we have to stop every single conflict in the world. In some countries if you are this religion you can stay there. What makes you think they will even respect other countries if they don't respect the people of their own country?



Ani-Nation	Sep 6 2011, 05:07 AM Post #15
Posts: 2,751 Group: Members Member #6,334 Joined: June 9, 2011	We have 7 billion people on this planet. 7 billion people with different beliefs and ways of thinking. I'll have to say no. I can only see it happening if we have a huge population drop. Edited by Ani-Nation, Sep 6 2011, 05:08 AM.



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