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Is the fast food and junk food in schools are to blame for the obesity problems in the world?
Topic Started: Sep 3 2011, 02:24 AM (1,112 Views)
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Ok obesity is a problem in the USA. Well these days it is a problem everywhere. Many people in my opinion are very quick to blame the fast food industry in the obesity epidemic, and will go as far as to even try to ban fast food, junk food in school, and any unhealthy food at all. The general population in the United States does eat fast food. The a big percent of the general population eats it pretty often. Now only the USA really has big problems with obesity. Now others like those people on yahoo answers think that ONLY the USA has problems. Nope the USA is still the one of the highest but there are others very close. Ok now back on the real topic.

Now it seems that the people who blame the fast food companies are also the ones that eat it often. Wouldn't that be consider a double standard? The general population of the United States are also virgins to exercising and physical activity. Less than a 3rd of Americans exercising consistently which is a pretty tiny amount compared to the people eating the unhealthy foods. Mix the fact that only a 1/4 of us are doing any consistent exercises and that fact most people are eating fast food and you get a problem. Now I am not bashing obese people but only bashing all the people wanting to ban fast food and junk food in schools which is a mix of skinny, or obese people. Also another thing is the a percent of overweight and obese people also have health problems that make it hard for them to lose or gain weight.

The people that are blaming fast food are also ignoring the fact that you can exercise to lose the weight. If you regularly exercise then you can get rid of some fat even if you are eating it 3 times a day forever in your life. I am not recommending that by the way because even though you are skinny you will most likely be unhealthy by doing that. Also pretty soon some fast food industries will be providing healthier chooses. So that will even playing fields.

Now on lunches in schools my opinion is the same. You can't exactly ban junk food. But you can also have healthy food chooses with the junk food. If you really want to do something then make like 85 percent of the food healthy while 15 percent junk food. Besides even the junk food in the lunch at school these days sucks or I have been told. The lunch ladies or males can cook real healthy food from start and can make it taste better than frozen unhealthy foods.


So in my final opinion you cannot take away freedom but you can do things like have health alternatives in place and to get the healthy message out to the people. Ok now debate!
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Yes, definitely. School lunches and fast food can be partially to blame. The parents and kids themselves are to blame as well.

My school actually has a healthy salad bar option that I enjoy every day.
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Sep 3 2011, 02:28 AM
Yes, definitely. School lunches and fast food can be partially to blame. The parents and kids themselves are to blame as well.

My school actually has a healthy salad bar option that I enjoy every day.
I agree completely with that post. The lunches and food are the source of it will the people eating it are the users. They are like parts of a machine. One can't be without another. The solution is to provide healthier choices along with the unhealthy ones for the lunches and food problems while to educate to users on what it does, and about consistently exercising.
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They removed most of the vending machines from my secondary school. Some got replaced my machines which provide healthier snacks. Shortly after the new canteen was built too. So healthier food all round and it made the dinner ladies jobs more satisfying because they got to prepare proper meals. To be honest though. The schools don't really have a right to tell you what you can and can't eat. They can encourage a healthier lifestyle yeah and do what they did at mine yeah. But I think it's mostly down to the parents and children themselves why they are obese. After all, they don't have to spend all their change on the vending machines or buy extra chips from the counter.
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At my school they started taking out junk food and sodas and replacing them with vitamin water and other such things.
I was mad.
And so were a few others.
I don't see the point. Of course, we were in high school and old enough to decide for ourselves I think, but apparently the government/school board doesn't think so. I wouldn't have been so mad if they had kept some of the junk food and just added in/replaced some of the junk food with healthy food.. but no, it was a total overhaul.
It got so bad my friend started up a soda black market from his backpack haha that was pretty awesome.

For younger kids I still don't see the point. Yes the school should make sure the kid's have a healthy lunch while they're there at school, but banning junk food from vending machines is still stupid because the parent has to step in at some point and raise their own kid.

I think all of this obesity talk and such just really comes down to lazy people who don't want to exercise and work their weight off the right way. I've done it a few times (never stuck with it) and I know it works cause I lost some weight. But I was never consistent with it. So it does work, it just takes dedication. Now days though people, especially Americans I think, want everything to happen the moment they want it done. I know my mom gets annoyed when an internet page doesn't load in, like, 3 seconds. I'm like, wth? give it a moment, breathe..

*deep breath*

so yeah, dedication and education xD
plus some damn parenting.
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How can you even say this? I was mad healthy and skinny until I left grade school. Now i'm slightly overweight.
I really doubt school food has anything to do with it. I never saw anyone gain weight due to school food. But plenty of people gained weight when they hit 20 years old.
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Sep 3 2011, 02:37 AM
At my school they started taking out junk food and sodas and replacing them with vitamin water and other such things.
I was mad.
And so were a few others.
I don't see the point. Of course, we were in high school and old enough to decide for ourselves I think, but apparently the government/school board doesn't think so. I wouldn't have been so mad if they had kept some of the junk food and just added in/replaced some of the junk food with healthy food.. but no, it was a total overhaul.
It got so bad my friend started up a soda black market from his backpack haha that was pretty awesome.

For younger kids I still don't see the point. Yes the school should make sure the kid's have a healthy lunch while they're there at school, but banning junk food from vending machines is still stupid because the parent has to step in at some point and raise their own kid.

I think all of this obesity talk and such just really comes down to lazy people who don't want to exercise and work their weight off the right way. I've done it a few times (never stuck with it) and I know it works cause I lost some weight. But I was never consistent with it. So it does work, it just takes dedication. Now days though people, especially Americans I think, want everything to happen the moment they want it done. I know my mom gets annoyed when an internet page doesn't load in, like, 3 seconds. I'm like, wth? give it a moment, breathe..

*deep breath*

so yeah, dedication and education xD
plus some damn parenting.
Eh, I've been very patient with it. It comes down to the strength and willpower of people trying to lose weight, not a demographic of people in general. Of course, culture can promote laziness. "Lose 8 lbs in a week!" articles are so moronic.

I've lost over 100 lbs in the past few years. I've taken breaks and I've hit the Gym hard at times. It takes dedication - overall, the difference in my confidence level, the way I look and feel every day and to know that I've bettered myself health-wise is worth so much to me. It's a cold hard physical reminder of my strength and how far I've come since I was younger.

And Engineer, how can you even say that? Just because you didn't gain weight in school doesn't mean others didn't. I did. My one personal account nullifies your one personal account. As you can see, that argument doesn't really work. People gain a lot of weight around that time due to college probably and being forced to eat junk for the most part.
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Sep 3 2011, 02:56 AM
How can you even say this? I was mad healthy and skinny until I left grade school. Now i'm slightly overweight.
I really doubt school food has anything to do with it. I never saw anyone gain weight due to school food. But plenty of people gained weight when they hit 20 years old.
Who me? I was ranting about people complaining about the food. Since most people that complained eats it themselves. The only thing I said bad was that we need to just add healthy choices along with those so called unhealthy choices. That way people can choose for themselves and to advertise exercising. Besides it doesn't mean that everyone was skinny in high school. There are many others that are not.
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Just wondering but sometimes isn't it just genetic?

I think most of the time its the parents fault. They're the ones buying fast food for their kids.
Yeah school food is crap which is why I don't eat it. However you have a choice.
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No, at my school we only get fast food once every other week. I think not having gym every day all year is to blame. And teachers not getting on fat people to participate. This fat girl in my gym class hit the ball in soft ball and just walked back to into line didn't even try running. And she doesn't even get a mit for out field. Just stands there. And since we have 7 periods and semesters instead of 5 periods and 3 trimesters, we supposedly don't have enough time to condition for running the mile. Kids dont get enough excisise I don't think school lunches have anything to do with it. They only feed you one meal of the day.
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Sep 3 2011, 02:56 AM
How can you even say this? I was mad healthy and skinny until I left grade school. Now i'm slightly overweight.
I really doubt school food has anything to do with it. I never saw anyone gain weight due to school food. But plenty of people gained weight when they hit 20 years old.
Completely agree. It's all about the amount of exercise you get. Has absolutely NOTHING To do with the food. News flash, you can eat healthy and do nothing and still gain MASSIVE amounts of weight.

Schools apparently cannot force you to do Physical Education (Which was surprisingly one of the few things that kids had for exercise) anymore, so a lot of the kids who are out of shape because they sit at computers all day are pushed even less.

Being physically active is the key to solving the obesity issue. True fact.
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I agree. The lunches in my school were terrible. You could actually watch the grease drip off pizza and stuff. Every other day was greased-up pizza, or fried-chicken. And thechips (fries for you :p ) were so covered in salt that you couldn't taste anything else. It was disgusting.

That said, I did lose weight while there. Probably because I don't eat meat, and all the main meals were drenched in it (including what few salads they had). So I could have for lunch was a side-salad.

It wasn't unusual to see people eat two or three 5" pizzas for lunch, then a bag of crisps. The school tried to make it moderately healthy by taking away full-fat fizzy drinks and replacing them with their "sugar-free" variants. Didn't really stop people bringing their own, though.

Despite this, I don't think that the school system is to blame. It's the mindset of the South (the majority, of course). They don't see anything wrong with frying all their food, the consensus is that frying food makes it taste better.

You can't just shove on a few health campaigns to make people lose weight, you need to change their mindset. Bugger me if I have any suggestions how, though. That was just my two cents :p
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Yes, definitely. School lunches and fast food can be partially to blame. The parents and kids themselves are to blame as well.

My school actually has a healthy salad bar option that I enjoy every day.
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I thought this was obvious... people become overweight because they don't burn the energy that they consume. Genetics comes into play as well (metabolism, the tendency for a body to store fat), though can always be overcome with enough hard work. E.g. gaining muscle mass causes fat to be burnt more efficiently due to requiring more energy.

If you aren't eating healthy then not only do you need to exercise more, but you'll also find it increasingly difficult to do so.
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People are different, as Ani-Nation said. Some people DO stay fit while eating tons of junk food because of their body's natural metabolism and the way it burns calories without physical activity, others don't.

This is a reason why there are so many different diets in the world. You can't blame something as specific as school food because then you have to be the one to find the alternative to it, which doesn't exist.

One thing I hate is when people suggest ONLY, completely healthy food in schools. What does this do? As well as benefiting the people that eat it, the number of people that will even eat the school lunches would decrease significantly, which not eating can be a whole lot worse than eating mostly junk food.




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