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GT Goku; Question
Topic Started: Sep 2 2011, 12:40 PM (1,478 Views)
Frostmourne Sep 2 2011, 12:40 PM Post #1
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 1. How did he get as strong as SSJ3 Z Goku as baseform on ten years (Or somenthing)

2.Did Goku get his size lower or did he get younger?

3.Why didn't he become weaker but stronger? By going with logics his strenght must have gotten lower.
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+ Clearin Sep 2 2011, 12:50 PM Post #2
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 1. It was 15 years since he beat Buu. As for how...I guess Uub is just THAT good of a training partner.
2. Pilaf wished he was a kid again, so his age I suppose.
3. He didn't become weaker or stronger, only his stamina was affected.
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J-Smack Sep 2 2011, 04:55 PM Post #3
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 ^^How do we know that it was 5 years after end of Z? I've been trying to find something in the anime that says 5 years passed because I know I've heard that before, but I haven't caught anything.
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has anyone ever stopped to think that maybe Trunks just bought his sword somewhere or something? There's nothing really special about it.

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Well it did manage to slice Frieza into a shishkebab so it must've been packing more power than your average blade. Hell even Zelda's sword couldn't pull off that ****.



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I don't believe in power levels after the Frieza Saga. :D
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+ Clearin Sep 2 2011, 05:01 PM Post #4
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^^How do we know that it was 5 years after end of Z? I've been trying to find something in the anime that says 5 years passed because I know I've heard that before, but I haven't caught anything.
GT is 5 years after the end of DBZ, but it's 15 years after the end of Kid Buu's defeat which is when Goku's SSj3 form is compared to his GT base form.
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lunar2 Sep 2 2011, 05:42 PM Post #5
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 it's in the gt perfect files, which is gt's version of the daiz and seg. that's also where it's stated that gohan kept training after buu, and rediscovered ssj because of that.
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Saberoph Sep 2 2011, 06:35 PM Post #6
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1. How did he get as strong as SSJ3 Z Goku as baseform on ten years (Or somenthing)
Goku Trained so hard with Oob and with the help of the Toei hax, Goku's GT Base was equal to Goku's SS3 from the Boo arc. Now I do believe whatever form from whichever continuity is up to the persons opinion, but remember that there wasn't a gap EVER stated between Goku and Vegeta until AFTER Goku went SS4, so whatever you have as Goku's Base Vegeta's gotta be right up there with him.
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2.Did Goku get his size lower or did he get younger?
Goku was wished back into a child...that's really it.
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3.Why didn't he become weaker but stronger? By going with logics his strenght must have gotten lower.
Goku didn't have to, he just lost a huge amount of his stamina, because logically when a person gets older to when they're fully developed they're stamina grows too, so to get around weakening Goku (Which TOEI wouldn't because they are serious Goku Fanboys) they just stripped away a huge amount of Goku's stamina.
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Paikuan extreme Sep 2 2011, 06:56 PM Post #7
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it's in the gt perfect files, which is gt's version of the daiz and seg. that's also where it's stated that gohan kept training after buu, and rediscovered ssj because of that.
then why did he get so much weaker? if anything he should be stronger than goku in his ssj form. especially ssj2 which is what he kept turning into. Vegeta is no way caught up with gokus base form, but his ssj2 has ssj3 tier power. He proved that. Its also safe to assume that uub himself could be equal to about or above the strength of buuhan. He proved that against super baby golden oozaru.

But baby wanted and STATED that vegeta was below goku in power, when he should have stuck with gohan whom he was inside of till meeting vegeta.
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Saberoph Sep 2 2011, 07:09 PM Post #8
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 But Baby ALSO SAID that he wanted the MOST POWERFUL Saiyan, and yet even after Goku went SS3 Baby decided to stay in Vegeta's body did he not?

Also, can you post a quote backing this up?
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Paikuan extreme Sep 2 2011, 07:11 PM Post #9
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 a quote? no an episode

besides he couldnt take goku if memory serves
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Spirit Sep 2 2011, 07:11 PM Post #10
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 I hate to break it to you guys, but it's GT. Of course they wouldn't make sense of what they do.
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Saberoph Sep 2 2011, 07:14 PM Post #11
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a quote? no an episode
That's what I meant, but yeah I would like to see the evidence, because I went over the Baby arc taking notes about things stated about where people are in power in relation to each other and never saw nor remember that line.

Also, I hope it's from the Japanese script, because the Funimation script doesn't really hold any water.
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lunar2 Sep 2 2011, 07:19 PM Post #12
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 gt follows the anime, where u. gohan is weaker than ssj3 goku.
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Saberoph Sep 2 2011, 07:27 PM Post #13
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 Well yeah, but it still depends on which point in the Anime you go by, these are the SS3 Goku choices.

1. The un-contradicted Anime, where Ultimate Gohan is still stronger than SS3 Goku.
2. The part of the Anime where TOEI had 100% of their way and used they're fnaboyism of Goku and contradicted themselves and made SS3Goku stronger than Ultimate Gohan.
3. Movie 12 where SS3 Goku is stronger than his Boo arc self, which follows the contradicted part of the Anime.
4. This one is debatable because some believe that Goku never got the TOEI hax, and some believe he did.

So, it all depends on what you wanna follow, but either way Goku's Base leaves Gohan, Goten and Trunks in the dust.
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Paikuan extreme Sep 2 2011, 07:34 PM Post #14
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Sep 2 2011, 07:27 PM
Well yeah, but it still depends on which point in the Anime you go by, these are the SS3 Goku choices.

1. The un-contradicted Anime, where Ultimate Gohan is still stronger than SS3 Goku.
2. The part of the Anime where TOEI had 100% of their way and used they're fnaboyism of Goku and contradicted themselves and made SS3Goku stronger than Ultimate Gohan.
3. Movie 12 where SS3 Goku is stronger than his Boo arc self, which follows the contradicted part of the Anime.
4. This one is debatable because some believe that Goku never got the TOEI hax, and some believe he did.

So, it all depends on what you wanna follow, but either way Goku's Base leaves Gohan, Goten and Trunks in the dust.
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Saberoph Sep 2 2011, 07:37 PM Post #15
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 You do know I was pointing out where you could technically use Manga SS3 Goku in the Anime, then show the TOEI haxes for SS3 Goku.

I do think it's lame that TOEI is like that though, downplaying everyone else then defying the True logic of Z just so they can have it the way they wanted it to be...I think it's like a slap in the face to AT.
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