SSJ3 Broly-Possibly the strongest non fused character?

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SSJ3 Broly-Possibly the strongest non fused character?
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LSSJ5 Broly	Dec 26 2011, 01:54 PM Post #16
Posts: 28 Group: Member Member #7,131 Joined: December 26, 2011 Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Mozilla firefox Favourite Manga none	Ninjajp247 he didn have time to become an mssj, the time line remained the same and there was no rosat training. Goku didnt have time. coming fresh off the androids the invention of mssj was a rosat thing for fast training and power drain vs consumption. Knocked gokus stamina thru the roof. No rosat training? Then how is Gohan a SSJ/MSSJ? Movie 8 takes place in the 10 day wait before the cell games
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Fourth Doctor Who	Jan 1 2012, 04:53 AM Post #17
Mark of the Crimson Dragon Posts: 671 Group: Member Member #4,214 Joined: May 28, 2009 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragon Ball, Yu-Gi-Oh! and Bleah What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Pokemon and Bleach	Well if this is movie 10 LSSjin3 Broly. I could see him pass SSjin3 Son Goku easily and he'll probably be the second strongest hypothetically LSSjin3.



~~Paikuan extreme~~	Jan 1 2012, 05:04 AM Post #18
Posts: 5,568 Group: Suspended Member #5,921 Joined: March 29, 2011 Favourite Anime dbz What Browser do you use? ie9 Favourite Manga akira	LSSJ5 Broly Dec 26 2011, 01:54 PM Ninjajp247 he didn have time to become an mssj, the time line remained the same and there was no rosat training. Goku didnt have time. coming fresh off the androids the invention of mssj was a rosat thing for fast training and power drain vs consumption. Knocked gokus stamina thru the roof. No rosat training? Then how is Gohan a SSJ/MSSJ? Movie 8 takes place in the 10 day wait before the cell games keep dreaming pal, movie 8 is an alternate story to cells. its in an alternate universe. Gohan is an ssj just because. It realy didnt take him long to get his ssj OR ssj2 form in that one year he was IN the rosat, so i dont understand why u would think he needs the rosat to accomplish this feat. No cell, no rosat, no ten day wait. Broly fits NO where in there. There was NO cell and NO cell games when broly and paragus showed up. The z fighters wouldnt just leave because some stranger invited them to go on vacation.



~~Destiny~~	Jan 1 2012, 05:09 AM Post #19
Posts: 7,206 Group: GTFO Member #5,331 Joined: October 16, 2010	LSSJ5 Broly Dec 26 2011, 01:54 PM Ninjajp247 he didn have time to become an mssj, the time line remained the same and there was no rosat training. Goku didnt have time. coming fresh off the androids the invention of mssj was a rosat thing for fast training and power drain vs consumption. Knocked gokus stamina thru the roof. No rosat training? Then how is Gohan a SSJ/MSSJ? Movie 8 takes place in the 10 day wait before the cell games That sure must have been a wild 10 days and don't you think cocky PC would like to have fought Broly himself?



~~brolyeuphyfusion~~	Jan 3 2012, 10:33 AM Post #20
The Legendary Nightmare Posts: 1,001 Group: Suspended Member #6,990 Joined: November 17, 2011	Ninjajp247 Jan 1 2012, 05:04 AM LSSJ5 Broly Dec 26 2011, 01:54 PM Ninjajp247 he didn have time to become an mssj, the time line remained the same and there was no rosat training. Goku didnt have time. coming fresh off the androids the invention of mssj was a rosat thing for fast training and power drain vs consumption. Knocked gokus stamina thru the roof. No rosat training? Then how is Gohan a SSJ/MSSJ? Movie 8 takes place in the 10 day wait before the cell games keep dreaming pal, movie 8 is an alternate story to cells. its in an alternate universe. Gohan is an ssj just because. It realy didnt take him long to get his ssj OR ssj2 form in that one year he was IN the rosat, so i dont understand why u would think he needs the rosat to accomplish this feat. No cell, no rosat, no ten day wait. Broly fits NO where in there. There was NO cell and NO cell games when broly and paragus showed up. The z fighters wouldnt just leave because some stranger invited them to go on vacation. You really think Broly fought Android Saga Goku? If you do, read carefully: Movie 10 is a sequel to Movie 8 Goku is dead in Movie 10, which means Cell exists in the Movie 8&10 timeline Therefore, there's Cell, there's RoSaT, and there's the 10 day wait. If you STILL think that Broly fought Android Saga Goku after what I wrote, get out, and talk to me when the evidence proves too much against you. If you say something retarded like Semi Perfect Cell>LSSJ Broly, then stay out of all Broly threads. Edited by brolyeuphyfusion, Jan 3 2012, 10:40 AM.
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~~Paikuan extreme~~	Jan 3 2012, 11:00 AM Post #21
Posts: 5,568 Group: Suspended Member #5,921 Joined: March 29, 2011 Favourite Anime dbz What Browser do you use? ie9 Favourite Manga akira	^^^^ LOL, is all i have to say. Your reasoning only includes the need to fit it in the timeline. These movies are what if's and have been declared alternate universes by both toei and AT himself. Its ok, it wont ruin your life. But what you said is not true at all. Goku could be dead for any number of reasons in movie 10, the lEAST of which would be the hear virus he was ALREADY sick with. He could have died then, not having taken the medicine at ALL, or when he was supposed to. There is no rhyme or reason, Besides how can you readily contradict yourself and say that it happened during the ten days? how long do you think they were gone anyways? and exactly WHY would they leave to go on vacation if CELL is gonna destroy the world? paragus invited them on vacation. and we all know that canon filler wise during their ten days goku went home and learned how to drive, walking around town in full on SSJ mode the WHOLE time. NOT SOME TIME, the WHOLE time. Plus goku is stronger than gohan in movie 8, if fresh out of rosat? gohan should have taken broly easy...they arent even as strong as their rosat counterparts, gohan=fp PC, broly= fp PC which puts goku at almost the same level i guess, but comparably i believe his movie 8 self to be weaker than his cell games self.



~~brolyeuphyfusion~~	Jan 3 2012, 11:07 AM Post #22
The Legendary Nightmare Posts: 1,001 Group: Suspended Member #6,990 Joined: November 17, 2011	Ninjajp247 Jan 3 2012, 11:00 AM ^^^^ LOL, is all i have to say. Your reasoning only includes the need to fit it in the timeline. These movies are what if's and have been declared alternate universes by both toei and AT himself. Its ok, it wont ruin your life. But what you said is not true at all. Goku could be dead for any number of reasons in movie 10, the lEAST of which would be the hear virus he was ALREADY sick with. He could have died then, not having taken the medicine at ALL, or when he was supposed to. There is no rhyme or reason, Besides how can you readily contradict yourself and say that it happened during the ten days? how long do you think they were gone anyways? and exactly WHY would they leave to go on vacation if CELL is gonna destroy the world? paragus invited them on vacation. and we all know that canon filler wise during their ten days goku went home and learned how to drive, walking around town in full on SSJ mode the WHOLE time. NOT SOME TIME, the WHOLE time. Plus goku is stronger than gohan in movie 8, if fresh out of rosat? gohan should have taken broly easy...they arent even as strong as their rosat counterparts, gohan=fp PC, broly= fp PC which puts goku at almost the same level i guess, but comparably i believe his movie 8 self to be weaker than his cell games self. If you believe that Perfect Cell >>> LSSJ Broly, then...



MysticGotenks	Jan 3 2012, 12:07 PM Post #23
Posts: 761 Group: Member Member #7,087 Joined: December 17, 2011	FollowtheLeader Dec 26 2011, 03:36 AM MysticGotenks Dec 26 2011, 01:59 AM Mystic Gohan is still way above SSJ3 Broly. I don't put LSSJ3 above Mystic Gohan, if he does gain a power boost, which I think he does but the main thing seems to be replenishing ki and pretty much impervious to pain, Chou Gohan is still stronger. I guess you could argue Hirudegarn is the strongest unfused character, considering how he practically bitch-slapped Chou Gohan. Are you kidding me?! Broly, in his Legendary Super Saiyan form, was "defeated" by the combined powers of two full-power super saiyans, two ascended super saiyans, and a super namek. Imagine the power that would be needed to kill (good luck finding it) to put down Broly, as a Legndary Super Saiyan 3. Were talking Me Gusta power, all in one large, unstoppable package here! And have you ALL forgotten?! The Legendary Super Saiyan form not only replenishes energy (I will never use "ki"), but also steadily increases the power level. The longer he stays in that form, the stronger he gets. And what the heck is "Chou"? Nothing states his power increases, only his ki. In M8 he was beaten by the combined powers of half dead Saiyajins. Chou Gohan would still rip LSSJ3 Broly apart, his replenishing ki would not help him here, in ultimate form Gohan can control his ki much better than an SSJ3 can. It wouldn't even be a battle here.
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~~Paikuan extreme~~	Jan 3 2012, 03:06 PM Post #24
Posts: 5,568 Group: Suspended Member #5,921 Joined: March 29, 2011 Favourite Anime dbz What Browser do you use? ie9 Favourite Manga akira	ultimate gohan has NO power drain at any time, he is unstoppable to put it frankly. An ssj3 broly wouldnt be an issue for movie 13 goku either, but since he is EOZ goku that makes a hell of alot of sense, GT goku doesnt even need to be mentioned.



~~Blade007~~	Jan 30 2012, 01:29 PM Post #25
Posts: 344 Group: Suspended Member #7,257 Joined: January 30, 2012	I don't think he will go SSj3. He will probably go LSSJ3. OT: Ultimate Broly = Strongest Non-Fused Character. He may actually rival base vegito.



~~brolyeuphyfusion~~	Jan 30 2012, 01:53 PM Post #26
The Legendary Nightmare Posts: 1,001 Group: Suspended Member #6,990 Joined: November 17, 2011	Blade007 Jan 30 2012, 01:29 PM OT: Ultimate Broly = Strongest Non-Fused Character. He may actually rival base vegito. Hirudegarn will still beat him though



Xfing	Feb 6 2012, 03:19 PM Post #27
Posts: 817 Group: Member Member #5,616 Joined: January 11, 2011	If that form existed, it would probably be stronger than Chou Gohan. Or maybe not... I think Chou Gohan should be around 5-7 times stronger than fully powered SS3 Goku, so this is quite a stretch, even for Broly. He was around 2x Goku's MSSJ power as LSSJ so I bet he could be at around 4x Goku's SSJ3 power at SSJ3... still not enough to catch up to Chou Gohan, I'm afraid. He'd likely be around Gotenks though.



~~Blade007~~	Feb 7 2012, 06:35 AM Post #28
Posts: 344 Group: Suspended Member #7,257 Joined: January 30, 2012	Gohan was SSJ2 not MSSJ.



Xfing	Feb 7 2012, 09:49 PM Post #29
Posts: 817 Group: Member Member #5,616 Joined: January 11, 2011	Blade007 Feb 7 2012, 06:35 AM Gohan was SSJ2 not MSSJ. Where was I talking about Gohan anyway? As for determining the timeline of the movie, it would be best to just ascertain which manga chapters were already out as the movie was being made. If it was just the chapters which barely showed Goku and Gohan fresh out of the HTC, it's possible that Toei didn't yet anticipate how powerful MSSJ will be, thus putting Goku and Gohan at around 1,2x-1,5x ASSJ Vegeta post 1st HTC. Goku and Gohan weren't given ASSJ either, since it has already been shown that Goku doesn't particularly care for doing things this way. And this is the line of thought of those who think Broly is weak. Myself, for now I think that Goku was at the heights of his MSSJ power from Cell Games in that movie, and so was Gohan. But one interesting thing begs the question: why was Goku the one to finally defeat Broly, not Gohan? If Gohan's superior hidden powers had already been mentioned in the series, it's likely that Toei would have emphasized them a bit more in the movie. I'm not talking about making Gohan defeat Broly, but at least thrashing him around a bit in a fit of rage. This didn't happen, and I assume it's because the chapter where Gohan briefly went SS2 in HTC hadn't been out yet while the storyline draft for Movie 8 was made. That's purely speculation though, and needs proving or disproving, so someone be my guest



Lestat	Feb 14 2012, 11:21 PM Post #30
Posts: 121 Group: Member Member #7,318 Joined: February 14, 2012 Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? google Favourite Manga Dragonball Z	Broly can never touch ultimate Gohan, no saiyan can.



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