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Gohan being SS2 or MSS...The showdown.
Topic Started: Aug 29 2011, 02:05 PM (7,627 Views)
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If not perfect, you've demonstrated your standards of detail to be considerably high. Because just from my own view, there really isn't that great a difference from how his hair is depicted during the Videl's match, his match, and his fight with Dabura. Based on how you simply conclude "it does NOT match SS2 Gohan's hairstyle" only implies that you expect every tiny detail to remain identical.

So is this going to just turn into my opinion vs your opinion of "it looks this way; no it looks that way" or are we done here?

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We can be done here...unless you wanna contradict yourself again then post another scan that actually helps my argument and disproves your own. If you wanna keep doing that, I would be fine with having a good laugh.
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If Gohan was only SSJ, it would mean Dabura was actually piss weak. Which I doubt.
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Well no, just that he was only around supressed Perfect Cell, I.e the one who Goku faught. That ain't that weak really. Compared to Babidi's other fighters, he's immense.


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That wouldn't make Dabra piss weak Perdy, even in the Boo arc Suppressed Perfect Cell was still impressive compared to Yakon, Pui Pui, Spopovich and Yamu. So that's not piss weak.
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previous recent Super Saiyan Gohan topic

fun s**t

If Daiz didn't say SSJ2, then most manga readers wouldn't question it nearly as much. But now... [shrugs]. We barely see the fight in the manga and honestly... I'm pretty sure Gohan put a helluva lot more in the battle then Dabra.

Sure, Dabra tried to kill Gohan, but I do recall Babidi wanting Dabra to be careful after watching Goku beat Yakon; Dabra went for the kill because he'd have had to fight Vegeta, Goku, and Kaioshin afterwards.

Would Gohan have really been that exhausted as SSJ since he couldn't have been fighting for longer than 18 vs "Mighty Mask." Note that although Gohan hadn't trained for 7 yrs prior, he had still trained with Goten, and should have been at least able to fight as SSJ for a moderate period of time.
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Aug 29 2011, 11:27 PM
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Remove the R son.
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Aug 29 2011, 11:57 PM
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Remove the R son.
For one that was a typo, and there are only three people who have the right to call me son and you are not one of them, so don't call me son again...boy.
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You've called me Perdy numerous times...
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ohhhhhh, so temoted to trolllllll!!!!

but i wont, gohan was MSS while fighting dabra, he charged up to full mssj which took the wind out of him as he had NO training in ssj for al those years and forgot how taxing the form was on the body. So in EFFECT? gohan wasnt even mssj he was ssj, thats how bad in base he had fallen.
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I've never noticed. Then I've typed it without knowing I did, and with me it can be pretty common, especially if I'm completely wired, I'll go on a crazed typing spree...people here know about that.
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Oh. Sorry for calling you son then. lol


Perdy kind of sounds like Pretty XD
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I knew a guy named Perdy, you try growing up in the hood with a name like that.

Ok way off topic now, but really other than the Diaz nothing says Gohan was SS2 or not, but the Diaz it's self has mistakes all through in it, more than the Manga...so all you've gotta ask yourself is which one is more cannon.
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A little more evidence that Gohan was SSj2 (I always post this stuff in the latest Gohan vs Dabura topic rather than making one big one just about the subject >_>)

Chapter: 471 (DBZ 277), P10.2-4
Kaioshin: “I want Gohan to use the Z Sword to defeat Majin Boo. Knowing him, he should definitely be able to use it.”
Kibito“A-are you serious, Lord Kaioshin…?!! There’s no way that a human or the like would be able to use the Z Sword!! That legendary sword which not merely myself, but numerous Kaioshins were utterly unable to handle…”
Kaioshin: “You were dead, Kibito, so you didn’t get to see Gohan here’s unbelievably tremendous power.”

Kibito had seen Gohan as a SSj2 before so the only possible way this line could make sense is if Gohan was suppressed against Kibito and then using Full power against Dabura/Majin Buu

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Chapter: 461 (DBZ 267), P3.5-7
Context: after Kaioshin says they must run from Boo
Gohan: “…Is that so?...He really does have tremendous ki, but…It doesn’t seem like so much so that there’s nothing I can do…[ ] …If I can only put out my true ability…”

While this one is about his fight with Buu is kind of counts I guess since most people who are he was MSSj against Dabura also say he was against Buu.
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And the counter to the first part is that East Kaioshin was also surprised by Goku and Vegeta too, also according to the Kaioshins a Kaioshin was suppose to be the one to remove the Zeta Sword, also to the second Before that Gohan says he's angry but NOT like before...

Also, you then have to dismiss all the Physical Evidence to say Gohan was SS2 against Dabra, and there's more Physical evidence saying Gohan was MSS and not SS2. So once again you would have to dismiss ALL the Panels that shows Gohan to be MSS to make that fact. So if you are dismissing all the Physical evidence, then you're argument doesn't hold any water.
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