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MSSJ and the Genki Dama
Topic Started: Aug 26 2011, 02:46 PM (969 Views)
Pookie
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Aug 26 2011, 02:47 PM
As far as I remember the manga never actually mentioned needing a pure heart. But I assume that if it's true then MSSj Goku is pure heart since it's the same as his natural state.
Cell could use the Spirit Bomb and as much as Seruphim may disagree he was not the purest of hearts I should say haha.
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There's no solid definition for a pure heart. Perhaps it's just something to slap on Goku to pad out his character with arbitrary nonsense. The inability to use an advanced technique like the Genki Dama while SSJ1+ is understandable due to the mind becoming increasingly clouded, primal and vicious, the additional strain on energy wouldn't help either. Is that an Impure heart? Seems iffy to me.
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well, we see with vegeta in buu's ship that a pure heart really refers to an absence of evil within the consciousness. kaioshin told him to empty his mind and be innocent, or something like that. so, even someone completely evil can have a pure heart while doing something like meditating. it's nothing more than the absence of evil thoughts.
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the DB manga, and the Dr. Slump manga as it applies to the crossover during the rra saga.

list of non canon sources:

everything else, regardless of origin, format, or quality.

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Gohan was corrupted by Piccolo, ha.

I want to know where this theory came from about being able to use the spirit bomb only if you had a pure heart. Did this arise just from Super Android 13?
darkwarrior
 
has anyone ever stopped to think that maybe Trunks just bought his sword somewhere or something? There's nothing really special about it.

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Well it did manage to slice Frieza into a shishkebab so it must've been packing more power than your average blade. Hell even Zelda's sword couldn't pull off that ****.



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I don't believe in power levels after the Frieza Saga. :D
Now, there's an idea.
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Cell said he is able to use the Spirit Bomb. He has Goku's genetic memory from the battle on Earth and preparations with King Kai.
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^^I really never believed Cell when he said that.
darkwarrior
 
has anyone ever stopped to think that maybe Trunks just bought his sword somewhere or something? There's nothing really special about it.

Y2J
 
Well it did manage to slice Frieza into a shishkebab so it must've been packing more power than your average blade. Hell even Zelda's sword couldn't pull off that ****.



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I don't believe in power levels after the Frieza Saga. :D
Now, there's an idea.
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I believe him. His target was the Androids, not bluffing to throw things temporarily in favor.
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