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Life after Death
Topic Started: Aug 23 2011, 03:08 PM (1,700 Views)
Cal
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Aug 31 2011, 05:55 AM
Well, I've never really thought of what I would do after I you know, "leave", but I personally believe in reincarnation, but in a different way. I believe we will be born the with the same parents, same everything. But we have another chance at doing good in life until we are "pure-hearted", then we will live an afterlife.

But I don't really think about this often, it's just something in my head, nothing serious at all for me. I mean, when you gotta go, you gotta go.
I had this thought in my head as well a few days ago. It'd be nice to see how my life would be had I made a few different things.
Think about what you're saying logically for a second, forget what you've ever seen within entertainment media/what you have been taught, just how many unanswerable questions does that kind of notion generate? How many groundless assumptions are you making?

Don't mean to offend or anything, but instead of having faith in an afterlife (or... some sort of reset button), why not have faith in humanity conquering death itself? The latter is much more likely after all, by a long shot.
I'm not advocating everyone believe in it(hell I'm not either). It's something I just found interesting is all. Not all beliefs need to be logical for you to find interest in them.

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence by the way.
Belief is siding with a notion that is backed up by evidence (to believe 2+2=4). Otherwise it's just wishful thinking. Experience is the basis of all knowledge, reason is the filter. Unfalsifiable assertions without evidence get us nowhere because they always generate a flip-side which cancels out the argument entirely (from a rational perspective).
The term, "belief" is one of the most subjective terms in the dictionary. You can't truly call it by it's definition because everyone looks at it differently. For example, if 10 people are colorblind and they look at a red rock, what do they see? They see black and darkness, does this make the rock black? Of course not, but to that person it's hardly red either. Belief is the same way, there is a definition stored away somewhere but people don't see that it's red, they see that it's whatever they want it to be therefor making the true definition moot.

I personally define the term as, "Something that is probable by evidence, a personal experience, or absence of evidence."

Experience is also subjective because the significance of it is based on how much you have, which different amounts is "different levels" of experience to everyone. If I have been a babysitter for 5 years do I have a lot of experience? You would probably say yes if you have less than that, however you might say no if you have a lot more.

Just thought I would say this because throwing around loose terms can confuse people.



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I believe when we die we die.
Does there really have to be something after death?
I think humans just made up the afterlife to ease their fear of dying.
Edited by Ani-Nation, Sep 2 2011, 03:54 AM.
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Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence by the way.
There's no evidence that I don't have a third testicle, but, that doesn't mean I don't have one!

I hate the "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence" thing. It can be used on SO many things.
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Sep 1 2011, 08:26 PM
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence by the way.
There's no evidence that I don't have a third testicle, but, that doesn't mean I don't have one!

I hate the "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence" thing. It can be used on SO many things.
Off Topic: I do agree with you Neci but you said it to me once lol, but it had nothing to do with this though so that is besides the point :lol: .

On Topic: So I do agree that we will never know what happens when we die. When we die we have nothing else to worry about imo. The only way you can know what happens when you die is to die and die for real not like those stories of people but like stay dead. That is the only way you will know.
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It takes a mere second for treasure to turn to trash.

Well, I must have said it either...

A) Awhile in the past when I believed in such a foolish and naive concept.

B) As a joke or in a joking/humorous situation, such as in the IRC.

C) I was referencing it in a deep discussion debate as I have recently and perhaps you got confused. I got in an argument over Cal with it in another topic over it.

When we die... nothing.

We can't comprehend what nothing is.

But, it truly is the void.

We will cease to exist.
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Sep 2 2011, 04:39 AM
Well, I must have said it either...

A) Awhile in the past when I believed in such a foolish and naive concept.

B) As a joke or in a joking/humorous situation, such as in the IRC.

C) I was referencing it in a deep discussion debate as I have recently and perhaps you got confused. I got in an argument over Cal with it in another topic over it.

When we die... nothing.

We can't comprehend what nothing is.

But, it truly is the void.

We will cease to exist.
Well no you said it when in a thread where I was complaining about some pain and then I said it went away and you said it then.

Back on topic. Like I said before you will only figure it out once you die and when you die you cannot come back. So I think we should just live our life as best as we can before that happens.
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I personally think that everybody's idea of what will come after death changes throughout their life. Elderly people generally accept the fact that death will come soon to them, and I think our beliefs, strength of our beliefs (either in something or nothing) changes the older we get.
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has anyone ever stopped to think that maybe Trunks just bought his sword somewhere or something? There's nothing really special about it.

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Well it did manage to slice Frieza into a shishkebab so it must've been packing more power than your average blade. Hell even Zelda's sword couldn't pull off that ****.



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I don't believe in power levels after the Frieza Saga. :D
Now, there's an idea.
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I see that I'm wrong now. Good points Neci.
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Aug 31 2011, 05:55 AM
Well, I've never really thought of what I would do after I you know, "leave", but I personally believe in reincarnation, but in a different way. I believe we will be born the with the same parents, same everything. But we have another chance at doing good in life until we are "pure-hearted", then we will live an afterlife.

But I don't really think about this often, it's just something in my head, nothing serious at all for me. I mean, when you gotta go, you gotta go.
I had this thought in my head as well a few days ago. It'd be nice to see how my life would be had I made a few different things.
Think about what you're saying logically for a second, forget what you've ever seen within entertainment media/what you have been taught, just how many unanswerable questions does that kind of notion generate? How many groundless assumptions are you making?

Don't mean to offend or anything, but instead of having faith in an afterlife (or... some sort of reset button), why not have faith in humanity conquering death itself? The latter is much more likely after all, by a long shot.
I'm not advocating everyone believe in it(hell I'm not either). It's something I just found interesting is all. Not all beliefs need to be logical for you to find interest in them.

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence by the way.
Belief is siding with a notion that is backed up by evidence (to believe 2+2=4). Otherwise it's just wishful thinking. Experience is the basis of all knowledge, reason is the filter. Unfalsifiable assertions without evidence get us nowhere because they always generate a flip-side which cancels out the argument entirely (from a rational perspective).
The term, "belief" is one of the most subjective terms in the dictionary. You can't truly call it by it's definition because everyone looks at it differently. For example, if 10 people are colorblind and they look at a red rock, what do they see? They see black and darkness, does this make the rock black? Of course not, but to that person it's hardly red either. Belief is the same way, there is a definition stored away somewhere but people don't see that it's red, they see that it's whatever they want it to be therefor making the true definition moot.

I personally define the term as, "Something that is probable by evidence, a personal experience, or absence of evidence."

Experience is also subjective because the significance of it is based on how much you have, which different amounts is "different levels" of experience to everyone. If I have been a babysitter for 5 years do I have a lot of experience? You would probably say yes if you have less than that, however you might say no if you have a lot more.

Just thought I would say this because throwing around loose terms can confuse people.

1. I don't consider the term 'belief' to rightfully cross-over with 'faith', but I understand what you're saying. You're explaining how people can form whatever opinion they believe to be true based on ideas that may or may not be false.
2. The amount of experience one has is irrelevant, knowledge and comprehension simply cannot exist without some sort of real physical experience locked away in memory to be reflected upon.
Edited by SirParagon, Sep 2 2011, 11:40 AM.
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