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Should drugs be legalized
Topic Started: Aug 22 2011, 11:59 PM (2,018 Views)
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Aug 29 2011, 05:08 PM
inded fulgore, and its legal, all part of the plan, not to mention that even though smoking IN GENERAL causes some respiratory issues, tobacco deaths are DIRECTLY cancer related, and have been known for decades to "cause" cancer as well. Maybe she doesnt smoke weed fulgore, but maybe she likes a drag off a smoke? kind of a defensive and unnecessary response to what you said there.

But seriously....some "drugs" are better left alone, if its man made its even worse...like someone mentioned before, everything in moderation.

She can spend a week smoking week, then a week smoking tobacco.. Then she can tell me what's more dangerous.
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It takes I believe 40,000x your body weight in THC to OD so you could prolly go 2-3 weeks before ODing on weed.
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In respone to the tobacco vs. marijuana, we did a bunch of stuff about that in school. Tobacco is way way worse for you than marijuana. Mainly because of all the ***** that is put into it for various reasons. If you look up the list of chemicals in cigarettes it's pretty horrifying. In addition to that, nicotine is one of the most addicting substances on the planet and has been said to be as addicting as heroin. So then people get addicted to the nicotine and smoke cigarettes and inhale all of the awful chemicals in it. People who smoke marijuana are far less likely to develop an addiction to it and it's generally less harmful.

With that said, I don't do any kind of drugs.
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Alcohol kills more people than weed.
That probably has nothing to do with the ratio between alcohol consumers and marijuana consumers.
Indeed. But recently, I believe it's been confirmed that weed isn't really that addictive. I used to smoke it, and I know from experience that it isn't. I've smoked joints with tobacco and without tobacco, and with tobacco it's seriously more addictive than a joint without it.
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I honestly don't have a view on this topic. But if I had to say something, I'd say;

Make some drugs legal. Society's f***** anyway, may as well let people enjoy the drugs that they want to. Not all drugs though, just a few of the aforementioned harmless ones.
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The main idea of this topic was to legalize drugs, but it wasn't directed at Marijuana. The conversation has bloomed into a marijuana legalization discussion, and I'm happy about that :) I'm a big time user, and I love it. I've smoked for years. I know from experience, marijuana is not harmful. I haven't ever hacked up tar, I've never been addicted. I've done my fair share of drinking. I know that it's more addicting/dangerous to the user than marijuana ever will be. If I spend a night with the good herb, I wake up in the morning feeling refreshed because the effects diminish in my sleep and I sleep very well. It's just a plant, put here by God.

To me, I define a drug as being man-made. Drugs like Cocaine and Heroin are made in labs, and are horrible for you. An addict could possibly be violent or detrimental to society in other ways to get their fix. An alcoholic has 2 personalities, one when they're sober (which could be bad because they want to drink), and then the irrational drunk on the other hand.

Then let's take a look at me, a regular user. I work, go to school, and live out a normal life. I have a girlfriend, a stable friend group, and I'd like to think that I'm as normal as they come. Am I a threat to society in the least because of what I do in my own house, on my couch? No.
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You make me want to smoke it with that post lol

Need that effect from a pill that would be awesome smoking isn't something my body will let me do ever

What other ones like marijuana are there? The not so bad but still illegal kind I can only think of it and then the bad ones like heroin
I notice people who only smoke weed tend to be far far healthier than cigarette smokers or heroin users(obviously) if god is real it does seem like it put that plant here to make us feel godly, lol


Where do they even make things like ecstacy? I've always wondered why they don't just shut the factories down if it's such a bad drug it's clearly mass produced somewhere if they're that bothered about it why don't they find where it's made, I mean someone has to be buying it from somewhere
Goes for most drugs in tablet form really
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Aug 30 2011, 10:35 PM
You make me want to smoke it with that post lol

Need that effect from a pill that would be awesome smoking isn't something my body will let me do ever

What other ones like marijuana are there? The not so bad but still illegal kind I can only think of it and then the bad ones like heroin
I notice people who only smoke weed tend to be far far healthier than cigarette smokers or heroin users(obviously) if god is real it does seem like it put that plant here to make us feel godly, lol


Where do they even make things like ecstacy? I've always wondered why they don't just shut the factories down if it's such a bad drug it's clearly mass produced somewhere if they're that bothered about it why don't they find where it's made, I mean someone has to be buying it from somewhere
Goes for most drugs in tablet form really
You don't have to smoke it you can cook it in foods and get high without breathing it into your lungs. I don't think there really is any other good drugs out there. And the thing about ecstasy it's just like cigarettes it's just for the money.
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You make me want to smoke it with that post lol

Not to be a prude but I'm taking the liberty of potential moderation now. As long as this topics discussing whether or not recreational drugs should be legalised, I'm fine, but I don't want to see any clear evidence, said jokingly or not, of people being convinced to try out illegal substances.

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smoking isn't something my body will let me do ever

Does that not fix it?


And yeah they clearly aren't bothered enough or they would just stop making half the drugs there's no way all of them are essential for medicine
Reading up on it marijuana is illegal mainly because it's a "gateway drug" and would make people want to try other drugs
As if, just from what people in this thread have said I'm sure marijuana is satisfying enough for those who smoke it, otherwise they'd have already moved on to heroin etc
That's a crap reason to make something illegal around 80% of the people in my town(not including chilren) smoke marijuana and only about 5% take any other drug worse than it regularly, and they're people who live in the gutter not ones who found this magical gateway in to being an addict
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Does that not fix it?


And yeah they clearly aren't bothered enough or they would just stop making half the drugs there's no way all of them are essential for medicine
Reading up on it marijuana is illegal mainly because it's a "gateway drug" and would make people want to try other drugs
As if, just from what people in this thread have said I'm sure marijuana is satisfying enough for those who smoke it, otherwise they'd have already moved on to heroin etc
That's a crap reason to make something illegal around 80% of the people in my town(not including chilren) smoke marijuana and only about 5% take any other drug worse than it regularly, and they're people who live in the gutter not ones who found this magical gateway in to being an addict
Google Cannibas myths/facts and they give several reasons why it's a gateway drug is a poor excuse.
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I think by keeping it illegal, everybody wins. People who posses it don't have to pay any tax on it, the government can look upstanding by refusing to legalise something with a lot of stigma to it and it gives the drug squads plenty to do when they raid people's stashes. Everyone's a winner. Well maybe not the people who find themselves drawn to stronger and stronger substances or find they have an illness related to the drug but everyone else is a winner. Oh I forgot about people who dislike the drug who don't want it blown in their faces in the street. They win too.


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I think by keeping it illegal, everybody wins. People who posses it don't have to pay any tax on it, the government can look upstanding by refusing to legalise something with a lot of stigma to it and it gives the drug squads plenty to do when they raid people's stashes. Everyone's a winner. Well maybe not the people who find themselves drawn to stronger and stronger substances or find they have an illness related to the drug but everyone else is a winner. Oh I forgot about people who dislike the drug who don't want it blown in their faces in the street. They win too.
So you would rather spend tax payer dollars sending in paying cops to go around arresting people for something doesn't affect other people? Then spend more money on paying to put them in jail for 5-15 so years? Why not just legalize it, then just make no public exposure to it like Cigarettes so people in public dont have to put up with it. Most people do it at home to relax unlike tobacco smokers who are addicted and have to smoke every couple hours unless they want nausea and vomiting.
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I think by keeping it illegal, everybody wins. People who posses it don't have to pay any tax on it, the government can look upstanding by refusing to legalise something with a lot of stigma to it and it gives the drug squads plenty to do when they raid people's stashes. Everyone's a winner. Well maybe not the people who find themselves drawn to stronger and stronger substances or find they have an illness related to the drug but everyone else is a winner. Oh I forgot about people who dislike the drug who don't want it blown in their faces in the street. They win too.
Oh? Tell that to DEA agents who get killed for it. The people who've been put away for STUPID STUPID reasons.



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I think by keeping it illegal, everybody wins. People who posses it don't have to pay any tax on it, the government can look upstanding by refusing to legalise something with a lot of stigma to it and it gives the drug squads plenty to do when they raid people's stashes. Everyone's a winner. Well maybe not the people who find themselves drawn to stronger and stronger substances or find they have an illness related to the drug but everyone else is a winner. Oh I forgot about people who dislike the drug who don't want it blown in their faces in the street. They win too.
So you would rather spend tax payer dollars sending in paying cops to go around arresting people for something doesn't affect other people? Then spend more money on paying to put them in jail for 5-15 so years? Why not just legalize it, then just make no public exposure to it like Cigarettes so people in public dont have to put up with it. Most people do it at home to relax unlike tobacco smokers who are addicted and have to smoke every couple hours unless they want nausea and vomiting.
I agree with this post so much. That's pretty much how I see it. Why are we spending tons of tax money on putting away stoners? The feds narc so much on potheads, when it's the methheads and people on REAL drugs that are detrimental to society. I don't get it. A cigarette makes you addicted and gives you no positive effects. The amount of money that could be made from taxing cannabis is enormous. There are over 100 uses for the plant, such as paper and hemp clothing. It's cheap to grow, and there is a lot of it. Taxing the smoke-able marijuana would be huge money alone, and then the government could make tons more on the other products the plant makes.
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