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Should drugs be legalized
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Naruto-Gogeta	Aug 25 2011, 05:30 PM Post #16
Omega Shenron Posts: 2,890 Group: Member Member #5,370 Joined: October 30, 2010 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball What Browser do you use? Internet Explorer Favourite Manga Dragon Ball Z	Alcohol kills more people than weed.
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Cal	Aug 25 2011, 05:38 PM Post #17
I may not deserve to live, but I will protect those in my reach with my reverse blade! Posts: 5,259 Group: Member Member #6,087 Joined: April 25, 2011 Gender Female Favourite Anime hentai What Browser do you use? hentaibrowser Favourite Manga hentai	Naruto-Gogeta Aug 25 2011, 05:30 PM Alcohol kills more people than weed. That probably has nothing to do with the ratio between alcohol consumers and marijuana consumers.



lunar2	Aug 25 2011, 06:31 PM Post #18
Posts: 9,150 Group: Member Member #5,265 Joined: September 24, 2010 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime dragonball/z/gt/movies What Browser do you use? internet explorer or firefox	well, it really all comes down to this. is it the government's right or responsibility to protect you from yourself? in the U.S., at least, no it isn't. no where in the federal or any state constitution is babysitting listed as the job of the government. if i decide to do something that could potentially harm myself, but wouldn't directly affect anyone else, it's none of the government's business. they can tell me: don't drink and drive. sure, because that endangers the people around me. but they can't tell me: don't eat that, it's bad for you. nor can they tell me: don't do that, you'll hurt somebody's feelings. it's not their job to protect people's feelings, either. so, with that out of the way: the government shouldn't criminalize something because it's bad for the user, because it's not their job to protect you from yourself. they shouldn't criminalize it because the damage it causes to you has an emotional impact on others, because it's not their job to protect people's feelings. the only justifiable reason for criminalizing the use of a substance is if it directly endangers those around you, such as by causing violence or recklessness while intoxicated. that's it.
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Optimus Banana	Aug 25 2011, 07:41 PM Post #19
Posts: 837 Group: Member Member #5,898 Joined: March 25, 2011 Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Google Favourite Manga Dragonball Z	Jonnoley Aug 25 2011, 05:01 PM Oh, and just one more point, I always understood that most drug-related crime was people committing crimes for the money for drugs? Obviously that's not 100%, but I always thought it was a majority. And if that is the case, and please correct me if I'm wrong, then legalising it won't reduce crime by that much, since it will be heavily taxed, and still fairly expensive. And as you might have guessed, I personally wouldn't touch the stuff if it came with a free holiday home in Spain. Well since owning the the drug is illegal I would say that possession is one of the major drug crimes.
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SirParagon	Aug 26 2011, 11:34 AM Post #20
Sparking! Posts: 808 Group: Duplicate Member #6,577 Joined: August 7, 2011 Favourite Anime Baccano, Mushi-shi, Excel Saga, NHK What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Berserk	I swear, some people react as if society as a whole would instantly turn to drug-use if it was made legal. So much faith is put into the whole Democracy thing; some crap about the majority knowing best. Then as soon as an issue like this comes up the majority is suddenly untrustworthy, like they can't live their life in a healthy manner without a government appendage shoved up their ***. If anything drugs are easier to acquire while they're illegal (some shady guy on the streets compared to a pharmaceutical store) and the notion that it's a rebellious activity only adds fuel to the fire. Edited by SirParagon**, Aug 26 2011, 11:39 AM.
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Fulgore	Aug 28 2011, 10:31 AM Post #21
The Darkness Returns Posts: 3,163 Group: Member Member #5,205 Joined: September 2, 2010	Cal Aug 25 2011, 05:38 PM Naruto-Gogeta Aug 25 2011, 05:30 PM Alcohol kills more people than weed. That probably has nothing to do with the ratio between alcohol consumers and marijuana consumers. I'm pretty sure they're about even.
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~~Espionage~~	Aug 28 2011, 07:46 PM Post #22
Posts: 130 Group: GTFO Member #6,345 Joined: June 11, 2011	I think they should because people have a choice if they want to do drugs or not. But I also think it shouldn't because it would be protecting people from harmful drugs.



Jonnoley	Aug 28 2011, 08:15 PM Post #23
Posts: 176 Group: Member Member #3,988 Joined: February 16, 2009	About 37 Llamas Jonnoley Oh, and just one more point, I always understood that most drug-related crime was people committing crimes for the money for drugs? Obviously that's not 100%, but I always thought it was a majority. And if that is the case, and please correct me if I'm wrong, then legalising it won't reduce crime by that much, since it will be heavily taxed, and still fairly expensive. And as you might have guessed, I personally wouldn't touch the stuff if it came with a free holiday home in Spain. Well since owning the the drug is illegal I would say that possession is one of the major drug crimes. Well... Yeah, alright. I might have sort of forgotten that possession is actually a crime, and will be a large percentage of drug-related crime. Leeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet's just pretend that never happened. Anyway, I went to the Font Of All Knowledge (Google), which took me to the real Font of All Knowledge (Wikipedia), which told me that 30% of all property crimes, and 26% of drug offenders committed their crimes to get money for drugs. And it also mentions that there are other economy-caused crimes such as prostitution. So yeah, I suppose overall crime "Drug-related crime" rates would drop. But you can say the same about domestic abuse if we decided to let husbands beat their wives again. But I still feel that there would be a large amount of economic related crime. I honestly see no benefits to legalising any drugs. While we're on it, let's make tobacco and alcohol illegal. Anything addictive that had severe health problems associated with it, really. We'd be as well finishing this nonsense now. Edited by Jonnoley, Aug 28 2011, 08:26 PM.



+ Steve	Aug 28 2011, 09:03 PM Post #24
Greetings. I will be your waifu this season. Posts: 19,471 Group: Legend Member #5,710 Joined: February 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Hunter x Hunter(2011) What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Berserk all day erry day	I don't get why most are as illegal as they are marijuana isn't a horrendous drug(for the record I do no drugs except what I get from doctors) alcohol is far worse I don't see why people should get arrested just for having a small amount of drugs on them If it was made legal drug dealers could have legal jobs and wouldn't be so crazy or even criminals, so less need for protection aka guns etc It would be better if they were legal but...can't think of a word...limited? As in you couldn't buy thousand of dollars worth in one go only sensible amounts I think the drug using community would be willing to put up with restrictions if they were allowed to take them and deal them After all it's the only way alot of people can even make money, in some cases not their fault that society won't accept them properly so they have to dabble in criminal activities just to get by I'm not a pro drugs person or anything but I believe in fairness
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~~Doggo Champion 2k17~~	Aug 29 2011, 12:02 AM Post #25
Posts: 7,931 Group: GTFO Member #6,380 Joined: June 20, 2011 Country United States Favourite Anime here comes What Browser do you use? o shit waddup! Favourite Manga dat boi	I immediately saw this comment and thought that I should tear it apart. Quote: I say we should legalize Marijuana and make tobacco illegal. Tobacco causes more deaths a year than Pot. Also the government lies or twists stuff to make it look bad. One example would be they stated it killed brain cells. The only reason that Tobacco causes more deaths is because more people use it. More people have access to it, so it is used a heck of a lot more. Marijuana is just as dangerous, so that statement is quite ridiculous. That is all.



~~Paikuan extreme~~	Aug 29 2011, 01:03 AM Post #26
Posts: 5,568 Group: Suspended Member #5,921 Joined: March 29, 2011 Favourite Anime dbz What Browser do you use? ie9 Favourite Manga akira	Jonnoley Aug 25 2011, 05:01 PM SirParagon You can't argue that drugs are 'bad for you' and 'destroy lives' when the exact same applies for practically anything consumable when used excessively. No. No you cannot. The death rate, or even just the number of live destroyed by, say, heroin, cannot possibly be compared to eating too much chocolate. Or even other recreational drugs, you think marijuana and cocaine should both be legalised? Tbh, I think marijuana should be legalised, sure it can ruin lives and has some cardiovascular and lung problems, but so can smoking tobacco, and that's legal. They're both terrible ideas, but terrible ideas of the same calibre, so should be legalised imo. But of course should come with health warnings and all the same nonsense you get. But that should be where it ends. Nothing else should be legalised, because of the harm they can do to people. Oh, and just one more point, I always understood that most drug-related crime was people committing crimes for the money for drugs? Obviously that's not 100%, but I always thought it was a majority. And if that is the case, and please correct me if I'm wrong, then legalising it won't reduce crime by that much, since it will be heavily taxed, and still fairly expensive. And as you might have guessed, I personally wouldn't touch the stuff if it came with a free holiday home in Spain. im with this guy, said it nicely, im on the other side, i partake in the leafy greens on my days off, but i dont see how legalizing REAl drugs, man made drugs, chemical drugs, are gonna help people any, as i understand it though some of europes countries are giving heroin away to the sick and needy on welfare but with a life threatening dope habit. marijuana is NO worse than tobacco except for the fact that tobacco filters are MADE with carcinogens and fiberglass, and the tobacco itself is made to produce more nicotine, COUNTED as officially to be one of the most habit forming and addictive drugs known to man to this day, and when taken away from its daily use the body suffers greatly from the loss of its wonder drug. better than thc? no, different plant, different chemical, same effect. So then....WHy is smoking tobacco legal? alcohol is a literal man made poison, taken from nature, man has made even more unnatural ways to make it faster and more deadly. People die from alcoholism, weed? i have yet to find a related death statistic. Yet alcohol is sold to "consenting" adults and the like who seem able (with this stuff) to imbibe freely and even partake in a chance of actually getting deathly poisoned if you drink too much at once. Where's the hard comparison here? WHy is marijuana illegal? im starting to believe these sociology books when they blame it on racism and politics.



+ Steve	Aug 29 2011, 01:43 AM Post #27
Greetings. I will be your waifu this season. Posts: 19,471 Group: Legend Member #5,710 Joined: February 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Hunter x Hunter(2011) What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Berserk all day erry day	Yeah most people only smoke marijuana at home when they're "chilling out" why should that be wrong? Is that worse than losing all inhibition and going driving or fighting in the street or smashing things up because you're drunk? Show us a person high on marijuana causing more trouble than not being able to stand up properly Some drug plants can just grow in your attic at random without you knowing and if the police find that you get arrested or charged, that's freaking insanity it's just a plant it's not a triffid that's going to kill people You're allowed to "grow" alcohol but not a drug that calms you down and makes you feel good? Makes sense. Because you couldn't just get growing alcohol wrong and kill yourself or anything Alcohol costs governments more money with all the damage people do while under the influence Seriously what's so good about alcohol? There is nobody I know that can name a beneficial effect other than it calms them down and makes them more confident Roughly translated to it makes me not care and do whatever I please even if it's illegal Things like cocaine and MDMA should stay the same they're pretty bad as is heroin Are "magic" mushrooms illegal? I'm not sure but if they are they shouldn't be either
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Balthazor	Aug 29 2011, 02:50 AM Post #28
I'm damn serious Posts: 1,762 Group: Member Member #3,096 Joined: January 7, 2008 Favourite Anime DBZ , YuYu Hakusho ,Inuyasha , Yu Gi Oh , Pokemon What Browser do you use? Internet Explorer Favourite Manga DBZ , YuYu Hakusho ,Inuyasha , Yu Gi Oh ,Naruto	Weed should be legal,supposedly it's got the same effect that beer has.
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Fulgore	Aug 29 2011, 08:13 AM Post #29
The Darkness Returns Posts: 3,163 Group: Member Member #5,205 Joined: September 2, 2010	ObsessiveFanGirl Aug 29 2011, 12:02 AM I immediately saw this comment and thought that I should tear it apart. Quote: I say we should legalize Marijuana and make tobacco illegal. Tobacco causes more deaths a year than Pot. Also the government lies or twists stuff to make it look bad. One example would be they stated it killed brain cells. The only reason that Tobacco causes more deaths is because more people use it. More people have access to it, so it is used a heck of a lot more. Marijuana is just as dangerous, so that statement is quite ridiculous. That is all. You've obviously never smoked weed. It's not dangerous at all. Anything that it 'damages' is temporary as long as you're under the influence of the drug. Smoking cigarette's has chemicals that are addictive in themselves, FORCING you to smoke. Edited by Fulgore, Aug 29 2011, 08:14 AM.
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~~Paikuan extreme~~	Aug 29 2011, 05:08 PM Post #30
Posts: 5,568 Group: Suspended Member #5,921 Joined: March 29, 2011 Favourite Anime dbz What Browser do you use? ie9 Favourite Manga akira	inded fulgore, and its legal, all part of the plan, not to mention that even though smoking IN GENERAL causes some respiratory issues, tobacco deaths are DIRECTLY cancer related, and have been known for decades to "cause" cancer as well. Maybe she doesnt smoke weed fulgore, but maybe she likes a drag off a smoke? kind of a defensive and unnecessary response to what you said there. But seriously....some "drugs" are better left alone, if its man made its even worse...like someone mentioned before, everything in moderation.



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