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SSJ Gohan (Post Z Sword) v SSJ2 Vegeta (Pre Majin)
Topic Started: Aug 17 2011, 11:25 AM (820 Views)
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Who wins?
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If u have x4 for ssj2 i don't know, it could be close
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But you have to remember Gohan MORE than surpassed his past MSS power in Base...he more than doubled it, and after Gohan breaks the Zeta Sword Goku ONLY questions if Gohan is Better than Fat Boo, not if he's not on his level or not. As a matter of fact, if Gohan wasn't on Boo's level Goku would have flat out said it...but he didn't.

So Post Zeta Sword MSS Gohan has a very good chance at beating SS2 Vegeta. Because MSS power means SS2 too and is Base Power, so however percent Gohan's MSS increases his Base and SS2 would increase the same too.
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Depends what multiplier u have for SSJ2 imo.
If ur using those (imo) stupid seg multipliers, then gohan probably wins.

And Goku did say that Gohan wouldn't be able to beat fat buu.
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I only use X4, but lately I've come to believe the Saiyans Bases are higher than I first thought, so my SS2 Multipliers will most likely drop. But even after dropping them, I still have MSS Gohan winning with ease.

He only questioned if he was BETTER than Fat Boo, not if he wasn't on Boo's level or not. There's a difference.
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Vegeta probably dominates.
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I've rethought my initial statement, Gohan stomps.

Forgot that he surpassed his ssj form (pre sword) after z sword training. Unless ur SSJ multiplier is x2 (which isn't that unreasonable)
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I have a X1.5 for MSS in the Boo arc, and still make everything work. My trick was my Fusion Multipliers, that's where the huge jumps in power come into play here.
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IMO if ur using a x2 or anything less than that multiplier for gohans ssj, then vegeta wins
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Piccolo who is considered a fighting expert, with the intelligence of Kami still fought on par with a teenage boy. Says a lot about how much experience means in DBZ.
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IMO if ur using a x2 or anything less than that multiplier for gohans ssj, then vegeta wins
Not if Gohan has a super high Base, and in the Boo arc it was shown Base Saiyans>The Namek, then you add on that Gohan is on Fat Boo's level, he just isn't powerful enough to finish the job. Which means SS2 Gohan would have to be equal to Fat Boo, and it takes someone more powerful to defeat him(Which makes sense). So with SS2 Gohan being that powerful, it isn't a stretch for MSS Gohan to be higher than SS2 Vegeta...especially since this is Pre Majin.

So my low MSS Multiplier can still work and have MSS Gohan higher than SS2 Vegeta.

I'm glad I started posting in here, because I need to go back and redo my Saiyan PL's in the Boo arc then, and rethink other stuff too.
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This is probably fanslated, but in the anime Goku says something very similar, he clearly thinks Gohan is not stronger than buu
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Chapter: 479 (DBZ 285), P5.2-4
Context: after the Z Sword breaks
Gohan: “But…thanks to that, my arm strength has increased a lot. That Z Sword was incredibly heavy, after all…Perhaps this was what they meant by me obtaining the greatest power in the world.”
Kaioshin: “I-I get it…If he’s acquired that much power in his regular state, then if he becomes a Super Saiyan it will become an even more substantial power-up…! Ye-yeah! That’s it! That’s definitely the greatest power in the world…!”
Goku: “…But…Is he greater than Majin Boo?...I wonder…”

That's what he says in the original Japanese Manga.
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That's what I mean, Goku Never says Gohan isn't on Boo's level or not, he just questions Gohan being stronger. If Gohan hadn't even been on Boo's level then Goku would have flat out said so, but he didn't.
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goku was pretty handy when it came to analysing and saying what he thought, hasnt changed since he was a kid.

ssj gohan will definitely give vegeta a run for his money. (In an alternate universe they fought and thats what made vegeta turn majin)

jealous his ssj2 sucks compared to gohans form. JK Jk

but really premajin vegeta still has a chance but gohan stomps still. For starters vegeta if ssj2 at all premajin, is lowwww on the totem pole for this form.
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