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androids power
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lunar2	Aug 16 2011, 11:38 PM Post #1
Posts: 9,150 Group: Member Member #5,265 Joined: September 24, 2010 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime dragonball/z/gt/movies What Browser do you use? internet explorer or firefox	one of the biggest controversies within dragonball is why were the androids as powerful as they were. i believe i've discovered the answer. if dr. gero was monitoring goku from anytime before king piccolo was released all the way up to the fight with vegeta, he would learn 2 very important facts about saiyans. 1. that after severe injuries, a saiyan heals even stronger than before. he has at least one, and possibly as many as 4 zenkais to observe before goku leaves for namek. a. king piccolo round 1. b. holy water (assuming it actually triggered the zenkai process, and isn't a true potential release) c. king piccolo round 2. d. post vegeta fight, if gero was still observing all the way until goku left earth. 2. oozaru. dr. gero would learn about the oozaru form, including the conditions for transforming, the power multiplier, and the fact that saiyan tails regrow. with these two facts in mind, dr. gero built the androids to deal with the worst case scenario: that goku, gohan, and vegeta all gained several zenkais and regrew their tails before the androids were complete. that's why the androids were ssj tier fighters, because they were designed to defeat 3 haxed oozaru at once.
	list of canon sources: the DB manga, and the Dr. Slump manga as it applies to the crossover during the rra saga. list of non canon sources: everything else, regardless of origin, format, or quality. for those that blindly follow word of god


NeoSSayajin	Aug 17 2011, 12:20 AM Post #2
Posts: 1,085 Group: Member Member #5,734 Joined: February 15, 2011 Country Argentina What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	So at what tier you would put them? Frieza 50% tier? Frieza 100% tier? SSJ Namek Goku tier? SSJ Yardrat Goku tier? 200.000.000 PL tier or above? PD: Goku didnt received more zenkais? First battle vs. Tao Pai Pai (although the DB ball helped him to survive), first battle with Tambourine (he was hungry) and after the battle with Piccolo Jr.?



lunar2	Aug 17 2011, 12:44 AM Post #3
Posts: 9,150 Group: Member Member #5,265 Joined: September 24, 2010 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime dragonball/z/gt/movies What Browser do you use? internet explorer or firefox	NeoSSayajin Aug 17 2011, 12:20 AM So at what tier you would put them? Frieza 50% tier? Frieza 100% tier? SSJ Namek Goku tier? SSJ Yardrat Goku tier? 200.000.000 PL tier or above? PD: Goku didnt received more zenkais? First battle vs. Tao Pai Pai (although the DB ball helped him to survive), first battle with Tambourine (he was hungry) and after the battle with Piccolo Jr.? goku didn't receive a zenkai from tao because he wasn't severely injured, he was just knocked out. the same with tambourine. both times, as soon as he woke up, he was fine. against piccolo jr., his limbs were injured, but his body was fine. zenkais are only triggered by near death injuries, and there were only 3 times in dragonball that might have qualified. we know he got at least one, though, because when krillin first learned about zenkais, he stated that that was why goku was always ahead of everyone when they were young. as for the androids, i have a high progression rate, and even #19 ends up well into the billions, based on where i have the z fighters: base goku and vegeta are both 320,000,000 ssj 16,000,000,000 base trunks is 225,000,000 ssj 11,250,000,000 piccolo is 9,000,000,000 gohan is 130,000,000 and the humans count down from there.
	list of canon sources: the DB manga, and the Dr. Slump manga as it applies to the crossover during the rra saga. list of non canon sources: everything else, regardless of origin, format, or quality. for those that blindly follow word of god


+ Clearin	Aug 17 2011, 12:49 AM Post #4
Posts: 12,580 Group: Elite Member Member #6,372 Joined: June 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom	lunar2 Aug 17 2011, 12:44 AM we know he got at least one, though, because when krillin first learned about zenkais, he stated that that was why goku was always ahead of everyone when they were young Krillin was lying? I mean look at your list, Krillin didn't see a single one of those events (From dragonball), how could he possibly put 2 and 2 together from things he never saw? Edited by Clearin, Aug 17 2011, 12:49 AM.



~~Spirit~~	Aug 17 2011, 12:50 AM Post #5
So Lonely Posts: 1,435 Group: GTFO Member #6,401 Joined: June 24, 2011	I think Dr. Gero made them so the fighters would have an almost zero chance of defeating them. Calculating everything he could.
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+ Clearin	Aug 17 2011, 12:51 AM Post #6
Posts: 12,580 Group: Elite Member Member #6,372 Joined: June 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom	The robot was following Goku EVERYWHERE right? Then why didn't it know he went into the RoSaT?



~~Spirit~~	Aug 17 2011, 12:53 AM Post #7
So Lonely Posts: 1,435 Group: GTFO Member #6,401 Joined: June 24, 2011	Teen GohanZ Aug 17 2011, 12:51 AM The robot was following Goku EVERYWHERE right? Then why didn't it know he went into the RoSaT? Maybe it couldn't reach Kami's lookout. If I remember, Krillen learned about Zenkai's when Vegeta asked him to injure him.
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NeoSSayajin	Aug 17 2011, 12:54 AM Post #8
Posts: 1,085 Group: Member Member #5,734 Joined: February 15, 2011 Country Argentina What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	Teen GohanZ Aug 17 2011, 12:51 AM The robot was following Goku EVERYWHERE right? Then why didn't it know he went into the RoSaT? To the ROSAT? But that was between the Cell Saga, Gero was already dead, his supercomputer destroyed and the bug that followed the Z Fighters was already destroyed by Piccolo. The Cell that came from the future did knew about Kami and the Lookout.



+ Clearin	Aug 17 2011, 12:56 AM Post #9
Posts: 12,580 Group: Elite Member Member #6,372 Joined: June 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom	NeoSSayajin Aug 17 2011, 12:54 AM Teen GohanZ Aug 17 2011, 12:51 AM The robot was following Goku EVERYWHERE right? Then why didn't it know he went into the RoSaT? To the ROSAT? But that was between the Cell Saga, Gero was already dead, his supercomputer destroyed and the bug that followed the Z Fighters was already destroyed by Piccolo. The Cell that came from the future did knew about Kami and the Lookout. Goku went in the RoSaT during Kami's training for 1 month.



~~Spirit~~	Aug 17 2011, 12:56 AM Post #10
So Lonely Posts: 1,435 Group: GTFO Member #6,401 Joined: June 24, 2011	NeoSSayajin Aug 17 2011, 12:54 AM Teen GohanZ Aug 17 2011, 12:51 AM The robot was following Goku EVERYWHERE right? Then why didn't it know he went into the RoSaT? To the ROSAT? But that was between the Cell Saga, Gero was already dead, his supercomputer destroyed and the bug that followed the Z Fighters was already destroyed by Piccolo. The Cell that came from the future did knew about Kami and the Lookout. Goku's training as a kid.
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+ Pyrus	Aug 17 2011, 01:00 AM Post #11
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Teen GohanZ Aug 17 2011, 12:51 AM The robot was following Goku EVERYWHERE right? Then why didn't it know he went into the RoSaT? Who says it didn't? Perhaps that's another something else he figured into his calculations.
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NeoSSayajin	Aug 17 2011, 01:01 AM Post #12
Posts: 1,085 Group: Member Member #5,734 Joined: February 15, 2011 Country Argentina What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	Ok then, yes, he might have known the Lookout and the Time Chamber, but Goku didnt became so powerful after his training with Kami... Edited by NeoSSayajin, Aug 17 2011, 01:02 AM.



~~Spirit~~	Aug 17 2011, 01:03 AM Post #13
So Lonely Posts: 1,435 Group: GTFO Member #6,401 Joined: June 24, 2011	Kamikaze Pyro Aug 17 2011, 01:00 AM Teen GohanZ Aug 17 2011, 12:51 AM The robot was following Goku EVERYWHERE right? Then why didn't it know he went into the RoSaT? Who says it didn't? Perhaps that's another something else he figured into his calculations. It's possible Gero calculated that too
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+ Clearin	Aug 17 2011, 01:13 AM Post #14
Posts: 12,580 Group: Elite Member Member #6,372 Joined: June 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom	Kamikaze Pyro Aug 17 2011, 01:00 AM Teen GohanZ Aug 17 2011, 12:51 AM The robot was following Goku EVERYWHERE right? Then why didn't it know he went into the RoSaT? Who says it didn't? Perhaps that's another something else he figured into his calculations. Wouldn't Cell have put 2 and 2 together and realized the reason Vegeta and Trunks got so powerful so fast was the room Goku used as a kid where 1 day = 1 year?



~~Spirit~~	Aug 17 2011, 01:14 AM Post #15
So Lonely Posts: 1,435 Group: GTFO Member #6,401 Joined: June 24, 2011	Question. Didn't Gero get info on the young Super Saiyan (Trunks) during the beetle with Frieza and his father? Battle (lolz) Edited by Spirit*, Aug 17 2011, 01:15 AM.
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