End of Z SSJ2 Goku vs Good Buu

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End of Z SSJ2 Goku vs Good Buu
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DanielSan	Aug 15 2011, 08:41 PM Post #16
Posts: 1,536 Group: Donator Member #5,730 Joined: February 14, 2011	Well we all kind of know that Goten wasn't training that much because it said it at one of the last chapters or episodes. Also Trunks didn't see goten that much like we think he did. Now about Gohan I am not really sure he trained with him, maybe at the start but not near the end of those 10 years.



~~Paikuan extreme~~	Aug 15 2011, 08:44 PM Post #17
Posts: 5,568 Group: Suspended Member #5,921 Joined: March 29, 2011 Favourite Anime dbz What Browser do you use? ie9 Favourite Manga akira	You are right, we tend to forget that these guys go ON with their lives during peace time, and rarely train together if at all. When krillin and yamcha walked away that was pretty much it. But guys like goku and vegeta never quit, and even though they might not have gotten a whole lot stronger, im sure its because experience in the form alone and using it to train ( which im sure vegeta would have, as goku) would deepen their power in that form. If they had their tails it would have been epic. Edited by Paikuan extreme, Aug 15 2011, 08:46 PM.



lunar2	Aug 15 2011, 08:55 PM Post #18
Posts: 9,150 Group: Member Member #5,265 Joined: September 24, 2010 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime dragonball/z/gt/movies What Browser do you use? internet explorer or firefox	well, my (simplified) buu arc power scale is this: ssj3 goku 100 fat buu 80 evil buu 50 good buu 30 ssj2 goku 12.5 ssj2 majin/ post majin vegeta 12.5 after the cell games i give all the old z fighters a 2x per 5 year increase. they are aging, and their body has been conditioned as far as it can go, so at this point all they can do is increase their ki capacity. so, 2x per 5 years is 4x in 10 years, meaning that on the above list, ssj2 eoz goku would be a 60, and could defeat either good or evil buu, but would still lose badly to fat buu. there is also a manga quote that shows what how good buu is rated among the z fighters in the end of z. Chapter: 519 (DBZ 325), P1.3 Goten: “Th-that can’t be! How can I go up against Boo right in the first round?!” Goku: “It’s only a problem because you keep slacking off in your training.” goku doesn't take buu very seriously here.
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Saberoph	Aug 15 2011, 09:35 PM Post #19
Posts: 11,517 Group: Member Member #5,650 Joined: January 23, 2011 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Internet Explorer Favourite Manga Dragon Ball Z	Kamikaze Pyro Aug 15 2011, 07:49 PM I think he could take out Good Boo easily. Fat Boo, I don't think so. He'd put up a good fight, but he'd ultimately lose. I go with this.
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Balthazor	Aug 15 2011, 11:36 PM Post #20
I'm damn serious Posts: 1,762 Group: Member Member #3,096 Joined: January 7, 2008 Favourite Anime DBZ , YuYu Hakusho ,Inuyasha , Yu Gi Oh , Pokemon What Browser do you use? Internet Explorer Favourite Manga DBZ , YuYu Hakusho ,Inuyasha , Yu Gi Oh ,Naruto	EoZ Goku would probably win and good buu puts up a great fight,I don't see Goku improving much in 10 years of earth training,when he just barely got stronger than kid Gohan with 7 years of otherworld training lol Eoz Goku -100 Buu saga Goku-85~90
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lunar2	Aug 15 2011, 11:45 PM Post #21
Posts: 9,150 Group: Member Member #5,265 Joined: September 24, 2010 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime dragonball/z/gt/movies What Browser do you use? internet explorer or firefox	where does everyone get this crazy idea that otherworld is so much better to train in than earth? the only advantages otherworld was supposed to have was 1. a lot of masters to learn from. the only thing goku learned was fusion, and there wasn't anyone in otherworld powerful enough to train with. 2. unlimited time. other than that, the only great thing over there is that you're dead, and have a tougher body. all that means is that you won't have to worry about injuring yourself so much. but there are no tangible benefits to training in otherworld as opposed to on earth. there's no magical force that boosts training gains, there aren't any new and unheard of training methods. there's a bunch of people to spar with, unless you're goku and have already surpassed them all, and there's no aging or time limit.
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Balthazor	Aug 16 2011, 12:03 AM Post #22
I'm damn serious Posts: 1,762 Group: Member Member #3,096 Joined: January 7, 2008 Favourite Anime DBZ , YuYu Hakusho ,Inuyasha , Yu Gi Oh , Pokemon What Browser do you use? Internet Explorer Favourite Manga DBZ , YuYu Hakusho ,Inuyasha , Yu Gi Oh ,Naruto	Well nonetheless Goku improved ***** all in 7 years but achieved 2 transformations and that's about it(I do think he was close enough in achieving SSJ2 though)in 10 years he could've improved about 10~20%,Nothing suggests a huge gain like some are saying here,which is illogical considering he didn't improve much in 7 years lol
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+ Pyrus	Aug 16 2011, 03:29 AM Post #23
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Sasuke http://dbzf.co.uk/single/?p=8339211&t=8310138 Kamikaze Pyro http://dbzf.co.uk/single/?p=8339196&t=8310138 supersaqer Aug 15 2011, 08:11 PM Goku have gotten alot stronger than before, 10 years is enough to be at least 5 - 10 times stronger. Goku (First of Buu Saga) : 200,000,000. After 10 years (5 - 10 times stronger) : 1,000,000,000 - 2,000,000,000. SSJ : 1,000,000,000 x 50 = 50,000,000,000. 2,000,000,000 x 50 - 100,000,000,000. Good Buu : 150,000,000,000. Fat Buu : 70% Stronger! SSJ2 Goku : 200,000,000,000 - 400,000,000,000. I think Goku loses against fat buu and wins against good buu. SSJ3 Goku stomps fat buu. You know Goku barely got twice as strong over 7 years in Otherworld, right? I don't see how he'd get 5-10x stronger in 10 years with inferior training. It's not like he'd be training with Gohan the whole time, and Goten barely trained at all. How do you know he wasn't training with the likes of Gotenks/Ultimate Gohan? Not known so it's plausible. Inferior is only due to time. Nothing up there is truly better than down here. The TRUE best training place is the RoSaT and that can't ever be used again. Because Goten hardly trained, Trunks became the president of Capsule Corporation, and Gohan went back to studying. Ninjajp247 http://dbzf.co.uk/single/?p=8339212&t=8310138 Kamikaze Pyro Aug 15 2011, 08:13 PM supersaqer Aug 15 2011, 08:11 PM Goku have gotten alot stronger than before, 10 years is enough to be at least 5 - 10 times stronger. Goku (First of Buu Saga) : 200,000,000. After 10 years (5 - 10 times stronger) : 1,000,000,000 - 2,000,000,000. SSJ : 1,000,000,000 x 50 = 50,000,000,000. 2,000,000,000 x 50 - 100,000,000,000. Good Buu : 150,000,000,000. Fat Buu : 70% Stronger! SSJ2 Goku : 200,000,000,000 - 400,000,000,000. I think Goku loses against fat buu and wins against good buu. SSJ3 Goku stomps fat buu. You know Goku barely got twice as strong over 7 years in Otherworld, right? I don't see how he'd get 5-10x stronger in 10 years with inferior training. It's not like he'd be training with Gohan the whole time, and Goten barely trained at all. he still ran off to go train with uub, whether you like gt or not you cant deny that little tidbit EOZ...10 yeras later eoz he would be strong enough in his ssj2 form to take good buu yes, but once he started training with uub you KNOW it skyrocketed. So at the end of ten years yes, beyond that while training with uub? at least a good jump by 2 or 3x is what would happen with that is my guess. But since im into the baby saga with toriyama then it was approximately 5 years he trained with Uub and got ssj3 strong in base. Oob came at the end of Z, so Goku couldn't have trained with him.
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~~Destiny~~	Aug 16 2011, 05:45 AM Post #24
Posts: 7,206 Group: GTFO Member #5,331 Joined: October 16, 2010	Regardless Goku is a great trainer. I'm sure he'd fine a way to master SSJ2 in that 10 year span. Enough so to defeat Good Buu.



~~Paikuan extreme~~	Aug 16 2011, 06:40 AM Post #25
Posts: 5,568 Group: Suspended Member #5,921 Joined: March 29, 2011 Favourite Anime dbz What Browser do you use? ie9 Favourite Manga akira	Kamikaze Pyro Aug 16 2011, 03:29 AM Sasuke http://dbzf.co.uk/single/?p=8339211&t=8310138 Kamikaze Pyro http://dbzf.co.uk/single/?p=8339196&t=8310138 supersaqer Aug 15 2011, 08:11 PM Goku have gotten alot stronger than before, 10 years is enough to be at least 5 - 10 times stronger. Goku (First of Buu Saga) : 200,000,000. After 10 years (5 - 10 times stronger) : 1,000,000,000 - 2,000,000,000. SSJ : 1,000,000,000 x 50 = 50,000,000,000. 2,000,000,000 x 50 - 100,000,000,000. Good Buu : 150,000,000,000. Fat Buu : 70% Stronger! SSJ2 Goku : 200,000,000,000 - 400,000,000,000. I think Goku loses against fat buu and wins against good buu. SSJ3 Goku stomps fat buu. You know Goku barely got twice as strong over 7 years in Otherworld, right? I don't see how he'd get 5-10x stronger in 10 years with inferior training. It's not like he'd be training with Gohan the whole time, and Goten barely trained at all. How do you know he wasn't training with the likes of Gotenks/Ultimate Gohan? Not known so it's plausible. Inferior is only due to time. Nothing up there is truly better than down here. The TRUE best training place is the RoSaT and that can't ever be used again. Because Goten hardly trained, Trunks became the president of Capsule Corporation, and Gohan went back to studying. Ninjajp247 http://dbzf.co.uk/single/?p=8339212&t=8310138 Kamikaze Pyro Aug 15 2011, 08:13 PM supersaqer Aug 15 2011, 08:11 PM Goku have gotten alot stronger than before, 10 years is enough to be at least 5 - 10 times stronger. Goku (First of Buu Saga) : 200,000,000. After 10 years (5 - 10 times stronger) : 1,000,000,000 - 2,000,000,000. SSJ : 1,000,000,000 x 50 = 50,000,000,000. 2,000,000,000 x 50 - 100,000,000,000. Good Buu : 150,000,000,000. Fat Buu : 70% Stronger! SSJ2 Goku : 200,000,000,000 - 400,000,000,000. I think Goku loses against fat buu and wins against good buu. SSJ3 Goku stomps fat buu. You know Goku barely got twice as strong over 7 years in Otherworld, right? I don't see how he'd get 5-10x stronger in 10 years with inferior training. It's not like he'd be training with Gohan the whole time, and Goten barely trained at all. he still ran off to go train with uub, whether you like gt or not you cant deny that little tidbit EOZ...10 yeras later eoz he would be strong enough in his ssj2 form to take good buu yes, but once he started training with uub you KNOW it skyrocketed. So at the end of ten years yes, beyond that while training with uub? at least a good jump by 2 or 3x is what would happen with that is my guess. But since im into the baby saga with toriyama then it was approximately 5 years he trained with Uub and got ssj3 strong in base. Oob came at the end of Z, so Goku couldn't have trained with him. are you trolling me? how did you miss the fact i already stated that? read it again.



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