Full power Piccolo and Android 17 vs Imperfect Cell

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Full power Piccolo and Android 17 vs Imperfect Cell
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+ Steve	Aug 14 2011, 03:22 PM Post #1
Greetings. I will be your waifu this season. Posts: 19,471 Group: Legend Member #5,710 Joined: February 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Hunter x Hunter(2011) What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Berserk all day erry day	If Piccolo and 17 were found by Cell before they had a battle who would win? Cell is stronger than both but it's clear Piccolo used alot of power in his battle with 17 so he wouldn't have been even close to his best As an added bonus to Piccolo and 17 Piccolo get's a minute to explain to 17 that Cell wants to absorb him etc so that they both know what they're getting in to
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~~Cocoman~~	Aug 14 2011, 03:25 PM Post #2
Badabing! Posts: 1,913 Group: Suspended Member #5,983 Joined: April 7, 2011 Favourite Anime Dragonball/Z What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Dragonball/Z	They still have no chance.
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* Yu Narukami	Aug 14 2011, 03:28 PM Post #3
Izanagi! Posts: 12,330 Group: Retired Staff Member #6,446 Joined: July 3, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None	Imperfect Cell > Android 17 & Full Power Piccolo Piccolo's Light Grenade did nothing to Imperfect Cell and I'm willing to bet that he put all of his strength into it. They MAY have a chance though, Cell did have confusion on his side. 17 didn't really take Piccolo seriously but if they had a minute to talk, it may increase their chance of winning slightly.



+ Steve	Aug 14 2011, 03:34 PM Post #4
Greetings. I will be your waifu this season. Posts: 19,471 Group: Legend Member #5,710 Joined: February 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Hunter x Hunter(2011) What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Berserk all day erry day	Yeah it would be alot harder for Cell definitely I think they could pull it off I'd imagine they'd totally put their differences aside I think Light Grenade could do something if Piccolo was at full power yeah he must have put all the power he had in to it at the time but I'd say he must have used at least half of his power against 17 beforehand which obviously doesn't come in to this fight
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+ Clearin	Aug 14 2011, 04:37 PM Post #5
Posts: 12,580 Group: Elite Member Member #6,372 Joined: June 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom	Well 17 who was at full powered was beaten in a couple of hits, so I don't think they stand a chance.



+ Steve	Aug 14 2011, 04:52 PM Post #6
Greetings. I will be your waifu this season. Posts: 19,471 Group: Legend Member #5,710 Joined: February 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Hunter x Hunter(2011) What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Berserk all day erry day	He was surely not functioning at 100% due to the fight with Piccolo though and he obviously had no idea what he was up against
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+ Clearin	Aug 14 2011, 04:54 PM Post #7
Posts: 12,580 Group: Elite Member Member #6,372 Joined: June 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom	Steve Aug 14 2011, 04:52 PM He was surely not functioning at 100% due to the fight with Piccolo though and he obviously had no idea what he was up against He doesn't lose energy, unless he suffered a serious injury, like losing a limb or having a hole in him, he's always at 100%



+ Pyrus	Aug 14 2011, 06:24 PM Post #8
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	I agree with TGZ. If #17 was down in two hits, Piccolo wouldn't have been any different.
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~~Spirit~~	Aug 14 2011, 06:45 PM Post #9
So Lonely Posts: 1,435 Group: GTFO Member #6,401 Joined: June 24, 2011	I remember piccolo's expression when Cell released all the power he was saving. There's no way they could beat him.
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+ Steve	Aug 14 2011, 06:56 PM Post #10
Greetings. I will be your waifu this season. Posts: 19,471 Group: Legend Member #5,710 Joined: February 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Hunter x Hunter(2011) What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Berserk all day erry day	Hmm I still think they could pull it off Not easily of course I just don't see how Cell could be that much stronger than them both just by absorbing earthlings I don't go by the whole 100 or 200 million power levels people talk about here I go with a 0 off like all of them Anyway if you're going with Cell being over 100 million explain how absorbing humans with an average of a 5 power level would make an incredible difference He would need to absorb like 10 or 20 million for it to wrok out with those numbers and with mine it's still way more than he would have had time to absorb especially considering that there doesn't seem to be an awful lot of people in that Earth I rate #17 something like 15%-25% weaker than Piccolo but he has an extreme advantage with energy making it even And I rate Cell at best 25% better than Piccolo But it would have seemed alot more because Piccolo was already down on power so if Piccolo used half of his Cell is 75% more powerful, which explains the scare
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+ Pyrus	Aug 14 2011, 07:08 PM Post #11
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Steve Aug 14 2011, 06:56 PM Hmm I still think they could pull it off Not easily of course Not at all. They'd be killed. Quote: I just don't see how Cell could be that much stronger than them both just by absorbing earthlings I don't go by the whole 100 or 200 million power levels people talk about here I go with a 0 off like all of them Anyway if you're going with Cell being over 100 million explain how absorbing humans with an average of a 5 power level would make an incredible difference He would need to absorb like 10 or 20 million for it to wrok out with those numbers and with mine it's still way more than he would have had time to absorb especially considering that there doesn't seem to be an awful lot of people in that Earth We don't have to explain it because it's shown to us that it somehow worked. He wasn't absorbing their "power", per say, but their "life force". DBZ Earth has the same amount of people as our Earth, too. Quote: I rate #17 something like 15%-25% weaker than Piccolo but he has an extreme advantage with energy making it even The fight shows otherwise. They were completely equal. Even if you want to give Piccolo an advantage, it would be nothing to speak of since it only kept him equal with #17, not ahead. Quote: And I rate Cell at best 25% better than Piccolo How much do you have his Light Grenade powering him up then? Quote: But it would have seemed alot more because Piccolo was already down on power so if Piccolo used half of his Cell is 75% more powerful, which explains the scare Yeah, not really. Piccolo was hardly ahead of #17, if at all, and he was down in two hits. Cell was just that powerful. I don't see why that's so hard to accept. Piccolo's Light Grenade had enough power to scare #17, and it barely scratched Cell. If that's not proof enough of Cell's power, I don't see anything that will change your mind, dude. Edited by Pyrus, Aug 14 2011, 07:08 PM.
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lunar2	Aug 14 2011, 07:24 PM Post #12
Posts: 9,150 Group: Member Member #5,265 Joined: September 24, 2010 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime dragonball/z/gt/movies What Browser do you use? internet explorer or firefox	cell wasn't absorbing the people's ki. he was absorbing their bodies, and using the bio extract to increase his own body's performance. he would have gotten about the same power up from krillin as ssj2 gohan, because they are about the same size, and therefore he could get about the same biomass from them. if we assume that he was actually increasing his pl by 5 per human, than using the most popular range of numbers for this time period, he would only need to absorb 90,000,000 people to go from 0 to #17 and piccolo's 450,000,000. more likely, however, he increases his power by some small percentage every time he absorbs a certain amount of biomass.
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+ Clearin	Aug 14 2011, 07:27 PM Post #13
Posts: 12,580 Group: Elite Member Member #6,372 Joined: June 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom	lunar2 Aug 14 2011, 07:24 PM cell wasn't absorbing the people's ki. he was absorbing their bodies, and using the bio extract to increase his own body's performance. he would have gotten about the same power up from krillin as ssj2 gohan, because they are about the same size, and therefore he could get about the same biomass from them. if we assume that he was actually increasing his pl by 5 per human, than using the most popular range of numbers for this time period, he would only need to absorb 90,000,000 people to go from 0 to #17 and piccolo's 450,000,000. more likely, however, he increases his power by some small percentage every time he absorbs a certain amount of biomass. I don't think that's true. 17 and 18 are about the size of regular adults yet Cell says only those 2 are strong enough for him to get to his perfect form. I'd assume Cell's absorbing powers are the same as Dr Geros and 19's since he was made by the same person. Edited by Clearin, Aug 14 2011, 07:32 PM.



+ Steve	Aug 14 2011, 07:32 PM Post #14
Greetings. I will be your waifu this season. Posts: 19,471 Group: Legend Member #5,710 Joined: February 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Hunter x Hunter(2011) What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Berserk all day erry day	Quote: DBZ Earth has the same amount of people as our Earth, too. Proof? If you look at the map it's not that big a place I doubt it houses oer 6 billion people However you want to put it regular humans shouldn't give him that much of a boost And I don't see how they were equal maybe in physical strength but in sheer power no Piccolo was far more powerful 17 had to fight him so he would lose his stamina to have a chance he never used energy attacks against Piccolo because Piccolo was better than him I don't take it as power = physical strength I'm talking about energy Not sure about Light Grenade, not enough obviously I'd say Piccolo only had around 50% of his full power so it wouldn't have been as powerful as it could have been and it could just be a hax attack also I rate Light Grenade as the same as Hellzone Grenade just obviously they are very different forms of attacks natural for 17 to be scared he wouldn't have known the blast radius but would know it had the power to destroy him
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+ Havoc_Wreaker	Aug 14 2011, 07:43 PM Post #15
Popcorn Posts: 9,904 Group: Elite Member Member #5,870 Joined: March 19, 2011 Gender Other Country Canada	no way they would lose add in 16 then and only then could they win 17 and piccolo went down in a couple of hits while 16 said him and imp. cell were about equal and almost killed him so 17 and piccolo< imp. cell 17 and piccolo and 16 > imp cell hell even piccolo and 16 > imp .cell Edited by Havoc_Wreaker, Aug 14 2011, 07:44 PM.



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