Vegeta (at Semi Perfect Cell) vs Piccolo (at Cell Games)

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Vegeta (at Semi Perfect Cell) vs Piccolo (at Cell Games)
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Kruegs Outlandish	Aug 10 2011, 10:38 PM Post #1
Posts: 2,526 Group: Duplicate Member #6,436 Joined: July 1, 2011	Vegeta has completed RoSaT1, and he has his SSJ and obsolete states at his disposal. Piccolo has arrived at the Cell Games. Who takes, and how do you see the battle progressing?



~~Destiny~~	Aug 10 2011, 10:41 PM Post #2
Posts: 7,206 Group: GTFO Member #5,331 Joined: October 16, 2010	Vegeta destroys. Piccolo wasn't at Imperfect Cell level. The Cell Jrs were susppose to be at about Imperfect Cell level if not stronger.



+ Clearin	Aug 10 2011, 10:43 PM Post #3
Posts: 12,580 Group: Elite Member Member #6,372 Joined: June 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom	I actually have Piccolo at around Semi-Perfect Cell's level, so as a ASSj I'd say Vegeta stomps.



NeoSSayajin	Aug 10 2011, 10:45 PM Post #4
Posts: 1,085 Group: Member Member #5,734 Joined: February 15, 2011 Country Argentina What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	Sasuke Aug 10 2011, 10:41 PM Vegeta destroys. Piccolo wasn't at Imperfect Cell level. The Cell Jrs were susppose to be at about Imperfect Cell level if not stronger. I dont think so, i have the Cell Juniors between Semi-Perfect Cell and Perfect Cell, more near PC.



+ Pyrus	Aug 10 2011, 11:20 PM Post #5
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	I'd give this to Vegeta, but Piccolo would make it the hardest fight of his life.
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Kruegs Outlandish	Aug 11 2011, 12:05 PM Post #6
Posts: 2,526 Group: Duplicate Member #6,436 Joined: July 1, 2011	cool... so verdict is that Piccolo loses: I'll make some inferences: Piccolo was stronger than Vegeta pre RoSaT, therefore Piccolo's RoSaT session(s) was less productive than Vegeta's RoSaT1. Could Zenkai have possibly been involved at all, or does Vegeta just train harder than Piccolo at this point? And also, what does everyone think if Vegeta were simply prohibited from using ASSJ states? does Piccolo at Cell Games at least beat SSJ Vegeta at Semi-Perfect Cell? I recall having some discussion about SSJ Vegeta vs Semi-Perfect Cell and concluded that Semi-Perfect Cell (Full Power) > SSJ Vegeta. How does Piccolo fair here? If you haven't answered the first post, you may answer that first. Edited by Kruegs Outlandish, Aug 11 2011, 12:05 PM.



Wintergreen5000	Aug 11 2011, 03:04 PM Post #7
WCZE Posts: 1,954 Group: Member Member #4,914 Joined: May 26, 2010 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z, Naruto, Bleach What Browser do you use? Internet Explorer Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	bizness86 Aug 11 2011, 12:05 PM cool... so verdict is that Piccolo loses: I'll make some inferences: Piccolo was stronger than Vegeta pre RoSaT, therefore Piccolo's RoSaT session(s) was less productive than Vegeta's RoSaT1. Could Zenkai have possibly been involved at all, or does Vegeta just train harder than Piccolo at this point? And also, what does everyone think if Vegeta were simply prohibited from using ASSJ states? does Piccolo at Cell Games at least beat SSJ Vegeta at Semi-Perfect Cell? I recall having some discussion about SSJ Vegeta vs Semi-Perfect Cell and concluded that Semi-Perfect Cell (Full Power) > SSJ Vegeta. How does Piccolo fair here? If you haven't answered the first post, you may answer that first. I doubt Piccolo is only as powerful as Semi-Complete Cell now that I really think about it, even after having only gone into the chamber one time. Piccolo at this point is a Super Namek, and has the mind of Kami. He is now smarter than he ever was before, and this means smarter than Vegeta. Before the time chamber Piccolo was already stronger than SSjin Vegeta was. As a Super Namek, Piccolo should be comparable to the Saiyans post-RoSaT. Even after the Cell Jrs beat down on everybody, he is among the few, besides Trunks and Vegeta, to still be standing. The fact that Trunks and Vegeta themselves had a hard time with the Cell Jrs means that the Cell Jrs are probably stronger than Complete Cell's initial level. If indeed Vegeta was confident he could take Cell on as a Super Saiyan, then no doubt he had surpassed the previous level Cell was in the last time they fought. So if Vegeta and Trunks are superior to Initial Complete Cell, and the Cell Jrs are even stronger than that, and since Piccolo was among the three to still be fighting at the end before Gohan turned SSjin 2, then Piccolo is probably on Complete Cell's initial level. So Piccolo in my opinion would crush Vegeta [post 1st RoSaT].



J-Smack	Aug 11 2011, 03:05 PM Post #8
Posts: 1,328 Group: Member Member #5,101 Joined: August 5, 2010 Favourite Anime Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Dragonball	I think that Piccolo fusing with Kami was sort of like unlocking an SSJ transformation. So, it put him in a different league than Vegeta. Then Vegeta unlocked ASSJ which put him in a different league then Piccolo. My opinion is that without some other sort of power up, Piccolo would get nowhere near Vegeta.
	darkwarrior has anyone ever stopped to think that maybe Trunks just bought his sword somewhere or something? There's nothing really special about it. Y2J Well it did manage to slice Frieza into a shishkebab so it must've been packing more power than your average blade. Hell even Zelda's sword couldn't pull off that ****. ObsessiveFanGirl I don't believe in power levels after the Frieza Saga. Now, there's an idea.


POOHEAD189	Aug 11 2011, 04:17 PM Post #9
Posts: 3,186 Group: Member Member #4,559 Joined: October 30, 2009 Favourite Anime Dragonball/Z Favourite Manga Dragonball	I'd give it to Piccolo. I have them equal in power but not in fighting ability.
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Kruegs Outlandish	Aug 11 2011, 05:05 PM Post #10
Posts: 2,526 Group: Duplicate Member #6,436 Joined: July 1, 2011	ILLusioNaire Aug 11 2011, 03:04 PM bizness86 Aug 11 2011, 12:05 PM cool... so verdict is that Piccolo loses: I'll make some inferences: Piccolo was stronger than Vegeta pre RoSaT, therefore Piccolo's RoSaT session(s) was less productive than Vegeta's RoSaT1. Could Zenkai have possibly been involved at all, or does Vegeta just train harder than Piccolo at this point? And also, what does everyone think if Vegeta were simply prohibited from using ASSJ states? does Piccolo at Cell Games at least beat SSJ Vegeta at Semi-Perfect Cell? I recall having some discussion about SSJ Vegeta vs Semi-Perfect Cell and concluded that Semi-Perfect Cell (Full Power) > SSJ Vegeta. How does Piccolo fair here? If you haven't answered the first post, you may answer that first. I doubt Piccolo is only as powerful as Semi-Complete Cell now that I really think about it, even after having only gone into the chamber one time. Piccolo at this point is a Super Namek, and has the mind of Kami. He is now smarter than he ever was before, and this means smarter than Vegeta. Before the time chamber Piccolo was already stronger than SSjin Vegeta was. As a Super Namek, Piccolo should be comparable to the Saiyans post-RoSaT. Even after the Cell Jrs beat down on everybody, he is among the few, besides Trunks and Vegeta, to still be standing. The fact that Trunks and Vegeta themselves had a hard time with the Cell Jrs means that the Cell Jrs are probably stronger than Complete Cell's initial level. If indeed Vegeta was confident he could take Cell on as a Super Saiyan, then no doubt he had surpassed the previous level Cell was in the last time they fought. So if Vegeta and Trunks are superior to Initial Complete Cell, and the Cell Jrs are even stronger than that, and since Piccolo was among the three to still be fighting at the end before Gohan turned SSjin 2, then Piccolo is probably on Complete Cell's initial level. So Piccolo in my opinion would crush Vegeta [post 1st RoSaT]. . I can infer something else now: After Cell threw 18 up, anyone, barring the humans, could have stepped in and finished (or fought, at least) Semi-Perfect Cell. You're post is convincing because it'd make little enough sense that Piccolo, knowing how strong Vegeta had gotten from RoSaT (even barring ASSJ), could not have improved nearly as much when he was already much stronger than the initial Super Saiyans without being practiced in his newfound strength... I have Vegeta nearly doubling his strength in RoSaT1 and then using ASSJ enables him to dominate an Semi-PC that he would have otherwise lost to IMO. Dunno what that should say about Piccolo...



+ supersaqer	Aug 11 2011, 07:56 PM Post #11
Transcendent Posts: 5,117 Group: Elite Member Member #5,137 Joined: August 13, 2010 Gender Not Specified	Piccolo was stronger than Vegeta and trained in the same place, So Piccolo is going to take this. I am putting SPC about 1,250,000,000 - 1,300,000,000 and Vegeta is about 1,500,000,000. I put Piccolo above him to be 1,750,000,000. Piccolo takes this. Vegeta became stronger because he took another year in the RoSaT. Piccolo stomps.
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