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| Saberoph | Aug 12 2011, 01:40 PM Post #46 |
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Well it's either that or make the gap between the Dance and the Potara huge. So you kinda have to take your pick. |
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| Nusu | Aug 12 2011, 01:41 PM Post #47 |
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Piccolo Daimao > Piccolo Jr.
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Yes. The Rival Boost made Vegetto immensely stronger then Gotenks. Even though by normal standards they shouldn't be far a part in power. P.S: Welcome back Saberoph.
Edited by Nusu, Aug 12 2011, 01:41 PM.
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| + Clearin | Aug 12 2011, 01:43 PM Post #48 |
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Hmm I'm not sure which to pick. I always assumed Potara was muuuuch stronger, I just can't see a rival boost being THAT big.. |
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| Saberoph | Aug 12 2011, 01:52 PM Post #49 |
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Well it just all depends on opinion, but if you have the rival boast that low and have the gap that huge then Gogeta isn't too much more powerful than Gotenks depending on high/low your rival boast is. Here's mine. Fusion Dance: X72. Potara Fusion: X80. Rival Boast: X100. Now the reason why my Multiplier are so large is because of how Gotenks and Vegetto was presented in the Boo arc. Gotenks was presented to be stupid strong and Vegetto left stupid strong in the dust and became beyond unrealistic strong.
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Edited by Saberoph, Aug 12 2011, 05:58 PM.
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Aug 12 2011, 05:10 PM Post #50 |
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already in use the potarras effects are tremendous and permanent until knowingly turning it off. My point about breaking them was the fact that they couldnt be used again. Like i said, the fusion dance takes into account the main contributors power and puts them in charge (assumedly) essentially making goku into gogeta by basically giving him vegetas power and added personality. The potarras are more eefective in one range thats important, The complete fighter KP mentioned is one meant to be a fully FUSED person, meaning there is no goku and vegeta inside. Vegetto was literally a new life form, with only multiples of power and no restrictions the boost to the potarras is unhindered, vegettos power is more raw than gogetas, and thats the difference. Vegetto is naturally stronger nad has a deeper power well than gogeta. While on the surface it may not mean much, but in a stand off it would become evident. Potarra= no power drain fusion dance= massive power drain and time limit on said power boost and fusion. Vegettos power is deeper because he is an actual person, gogeta is not. |
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Aug 12 2011, 06:32 PM Post #51 |
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The odd thing is that Gogeta had a line that fits your Full Fighter theory. I'm neither Goku nor Vegeta. I'm Gogeta" or someting along those lines. While Vegito said he was Goku and Vegeta that made him Vegito. Need actual quotes though you're theory is pretty legit just found it ironic is all. |
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Aug 12 2011, 11:47 PM Post #52 |
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Yeah but i say that because the potarras makee vegetto a complete person, gogeta has a limited life and is more a technique than a person. With the earrings vegetto is made a permanent equally parts mixed in fusion that doesnt take this and that it takes it ALL and mashes it together literally making a new life form. The potarras make this more permanent by holding it together indefinitely with an unbreakable bond of powerful magic(making permanent even when medium is broken), an enemy strong enough can knock two lesser beings out of fusion dance, proven by both gotenks and ssj4 gogeta. It always seemed in the fusion dance that TWO people were in control but ones personality was in dominant control more than the other. I think the potarra mashed EVERYTHING together leaving no room for individuality even on the inside. Thats what i mean by completely new person, gogeta is a facsimile for a time/energy consuming technique, the potarras are the very medium for its powerful magic and require no power for activation. Only multiples from the moment you put them on. Edited by Paikuan extreme, Aug 12 2011, 11:51 PM.
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| * Yu Narukami | Aug 14 2011, 01:06 AM Post #53 |
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Izanagi!
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Super Vegito > SSJ Gogeta >> Super Janemba >= Buuhan > Buutenks > Super Buu > Normal Janemba > Fat Buu |
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Aug 14 2011, 01:11 AM Post #54 |
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How is Buuhan weaker than Super Janema? Didn't he have to go reality warping to defeat SSJ3 Goku? |
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| * Yu Narukami | Aug 14 2011, 01:20 AM Post #55 |
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Izanagi!
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Wasn't Super Janemba toying around with SSJ3 Goku? I'm not sure, I'm rusty regarding Fusion Reborn. I still say Gogeta's stronger than Buuhan Fat Buu >>>>>>> SSJ Trunks (Post-RoSaT) > SSJ Goten (Post-RoSaT) SSJ Gotenks (Post RoSaT) >>>> Fat Buu SSJ3 Gotenks (Post RoSaT) >>>>>>>>> Fat Buu Buuhan >>>>>>>>>> SSJ Goku (Buu Arc) > SSJ Vegeta (Buu Arc) SSJ Gogeta > Buuhan > Buutenks Fusion yields a massive increase, so much so that they can go from being dominated seperately to completely dominating whilst fused. |
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Aug 14 2011, 01:23 AM Post #56 |
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I do have personally Gogeta over Buuhaan due to my belief of Vegito and Gogeta being close in power. Though I think Vegito had the harder opponent which is why some feel he is far far far stronger. Though this is just some people others have a legit reason for their opinions on the matter. |
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| Fulgore | Aug 14 2011, 01:24 AM Post #57 |
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The Darkness Returns
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WHat? You're COMPLETELY off base on this. No, time limit is NOT the only thing. You're taking your own personal beliefs and trying to make them real and justifiable. Elder Kai stated that it produces a great effect than fusion. Don't try to debate what greater effect is because it's clearly stated in a dictionary what the meaning of the word EFFECT is. Potara is beter. Period. Edited by Fulgore, Aug 14 2011, 01:26 AM.
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| + Havoc_Wreaker | Aug 14 2011, 01:31 AM Post #58 |
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Popcorn
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fulgore easy it down a bit there just opinions |
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Aug 14 2011, 01:34 AM Post #59 |
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Pardon me for believing other wise. It can be argued about what it means because it was never made clear as to what "effect" was. Hell it could have been a negative effect. You're the one taking assumptions here. |
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| Fulgore | Aug 14 2011, 02:53 AM Post #60 |
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The Darkness Returns
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There's a dictionary, this is a language. You don't dispute what a word means. That's like Goku saying I have more power, and then you trying to say "define power". Just not called for. You're a big boy, look up the words. |
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