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| SSJ Gogeta VS Buutenks; Fight | |
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| Wintergreen5000 | Aug 11 2011, 03:46 PM Post #16 |
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Wolffang could be right about Goku and Vegeta having to match each other's strength before fusing, and that having a different outcome in power for the fusion dance than the Potara, but I can't see how that would make Gogeta much weaker at all than Vegetto. I will say this though: The Potara is of a different type of fusion, probably with it's own multiplier. I can't see two fusions from two different peoples having the same multiplier. Even after witnessing Gogeta's awesome power in Movie 12, he still only fought, in my opinion, a weaker being than Super Buu. And yet, if he was on or close to Vegetto's level, his attacks still did not obliterate him, much in the same manner SSjin 2 Kid Gohan's attacks did the Cell Jrs, nor did they incapacitate him. So, it is possible that Gogeta is indeed far below Vegetto in terms of strength. In my opinion, he is on Super Buu's level. |
 
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| + Pyrus | Aug 11 2011, 08:38 PM Post #17 |
 
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Yeah, I can see how you'd reach that conclusion. I see the rival boost as jacking Gogeta up to Vegetto's standards, so yeah. |
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| DanielSan | Aug 11 2011, 10:45 PM Post #18 |
 
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I have Gogeta and Vegito equal, and Vegito is over 2 as twice as Buutenks, so he will blast him into the sun. |
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| Saberoph | Aug 11 2011, 11:03 PM Post #19 |
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I see Gogeta winning this pretty easily imo. There is nothing that says the rival boast only works with the Potara, Elder Kaioshin says Goku and Vegeta being rivals makes the fusion more complete(or something like that). But note he didn't say Goku and Vegeta being rivals makes the Potara more complete, so with Goku and Vegeta using the dance, they would gain the regular Fusion boast then the rival boast. Well lets put the rival boast into perspective shall we? Goku and Vegeta even as MSS are FAR weaker than Ultimate Gohan (Using Manga Continuity) who is FAR weaker than Bootenks who is weaker than Ultimate Boo (Gohan absorbed), yes I realize the Potare fusion is greater, but inside Super Boo Goku is more than confident that Gogeta can beat Super Boo, who could kill them in an instant. What does Super Boo have to do with MSS Gogeta vs. Bootenks? Well Bootenks is a little double Super Boo imo and look at what it did for Goten and Trunks without a rival boast. Some place the kids a good deal below Goku and Vegeta, some place them about equal and some have them stronger than Goku and Vegeta. If you have the kids weaker than Goku and Vegeta, then the fusion dance Multiplier has to be huge along with the rival boast which would make Gogeta able to bend Bootenks over like Vegetto did to Ultimate Boo. if the kids are equal to Goku and Vegeta, then it would be the same result and would still give Gogets enough power to win, but it would have to be Movie 12 Gogeta and not GT Gogeta. If the kids are stronger than Goku and Vegeta, if you have low Fusion Multipliers then I don't see Gogeta winning before his time runs out, unless you have huge Fusion Multiplier no matter what. At-least that's my opinion and how I view it. |
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Aug 11 2011, 11:50 PM Post #20 |
 
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Thats another weakness, the time factor, another thought as to how the potarras fusion is more efficient. It stacks powers AND it has the users recombined into a whole nother being. Vegettos only weakness would be the earrings themselves. Gogeta is powerful, but in order to match the potarras strength output, both of the users need to be the same strength. So until vegeta hits ssj3 or higher without blutz waves i dont see gogeta being ahead of vegetto strength wise, Goku couldnt do it by himself, he needs all the power available, another advantage of vegetto, he has access to all of his power, gogeta is suppressed. Only ssj4 gogeta was unsupressed IMO. |
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| Saberoph | Aug 11 2011, 11:57 PM Post #21 |
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But how would the Potara earrings be a weakness, because Vegetto wouldn't split if he took them off, Elder Kaioshin is proof of that. |
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Aug 12 2011, 12:57 AM Post #22 |
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I don't think SSJ3 Gotenks is as strong as Super Gogeta  But even if he was. Gogeta could just go to the second or third level as easy as cake! Edited by Spirit, Aug 12 2011, 12:57 AM.
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Aug 12 2011, 01:00 AM Post #23 |
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vegeta also broke them. They are vulnerable to destruction. |
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| + Havoc_Wreaker | Aug 12 2011, 01:16 AM Post #24 |
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okay so they break it but there still fused so nothing happens according to kaoishin or the watever but they did defuse in buu so u never know but i dnt think breaking them would make them defuse that would be just stupid way to stupid |
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Aug 12 2011, 03:10 AM Post #25 |
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 how so? if they are broken they are broken, wearing them or not. Useless ornaments really. The fusion wouldnt wear off though, vegetto would be stuck.
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| Saberoph | Aug 12 2011, 03:19 AM Post #26 |
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But the point is nothing would happen. Look at Kibitoshin, he gave Goku and Vegeta his Potara and they broke it, but Kibit and East Kaioshin stayed fused. |
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Aug 12 2011, 03:22 AM Post #27 |
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I'm sick and tired of the vegito *****. He's rival boost isn't that much to be making a difference. The one and ONLY difference between the two fusions is the time limit. I don't think Old Kai knew what he was saying about fusion dance. I think he was being cocky with he's side while the only limitation the dance has is the time limit. |
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| Saberoph | Aug 12 2011, 03:33 AM Post #28 |
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The only problem with that is Elder Kaioshin says the Potara fusion is More Powerful, so you would have to dismiss that comment to say the time limit is the only difference...which clearly there is more than that. |
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| + Clearin | Aug 12 2011, 03:35 AM Post #29 |
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I still think Potara is much stronger. I mean I'm pretty sure the gap between SSj Trunks and SSj Goten (Pre time chamber) and Fat Buu wasn't as low as the gap between SSj2 Goku and SSj2 Vegeta compared to Buuhan |
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Aug 12 2011, 03:51 AM Post #30 |
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Okay speak your case please. I can't understand how a statement from a kai in a sword for most of he's life is taken to much out of hand.
First of all Old Kai's statements are one of the MOST over used one's for saying one is greater. Example A: Kid Buu is stronger because Old Kai says so.. How would Old Kai even know that? He would have to done the fusion himself(meaning both the dance and pottara. All he did was pottara) He couldn't have gotten Fusion is weaker from seeing Gotenks either. And no Rival Boost doesn't count either as that's depending on user's if anything and wouldn't say Pottara > Fusion Dance |
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