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Base Goku (Buu arc saga) VS Bio-Broly; Fight
Topic Started: Aug 7 2011, 07:49 PM (2,948 Views)
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Didn't Bio Broly beat Android 18, SSj Trunks and Goten at the same time? Bio Broly stomp imo.
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Yeah, I'm giving this to Bio-Broly as well. I can't see Base Goku being around SSj Teen Gohan's strength, which is where I have the kids relatively.
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Well SSJ Trunks and SSJ Goten made a good match against Bio-Broly in a period of time and then Goten screwed it up because he was distracted by Mr Satan.
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bio broly ,he had the advantage against the kids, and even if the kids had a slight advantage which they clearly didnt
goku base does not equal the kids in ssj
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no, not in the movies, the kids strength was haxxed along with krillin. Base goku isnt as strong as them, who by this movie SHOULD be as strong as teen gohan circa movie 9. Even krillin exhibited almost ssj tier type strength in this film.
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most def...do a instant kamehameha and be done with it.
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Aug 7 2011, 08:21 PM
no, not in the movies, the kids strength was haxxed along with krillin. Base goku isnt as strong as them, who by this movie SHOULD be as strong as teen gohan circa movie 9. Even krillin exhibited almost ssj tier type strength in this film.
How so? Please, do explain. I saw no haxxing of the kids' strength.
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Wasn't Base Goku as strong as ssj Gohan though(or nearly, going by the Z sword)?

Goku wins, Bio-Broly is dumb.
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The kids strength was haxxed as a drawn conclusion, their strength in the movies is beyond their anime selves. Always has been. For the adults and the kids. as well as the villain. Bio broly was a failed experiment. It was only once it turned to sludge did it seem like the kids were even having a problem with him.
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The kids strength was haxxed as a drawn conclusion, their strength in the movies is beyond their anime selves. Always has been. For the adults and the kids. as well as the villain. Bio broly was a failed experiment. It was only once it turned to sludge did it seem like the kids were even having a problem with him.
So the fact that we see SSjin Goten keeping up with SSjin Teen Gohan makes no nevermind to you?

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Gohan was swinging the sword in base as well. So, no contradiction there.
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Makes no nevermind? i have always been in the opinion that goten at that age could not have been as strong as gohan in ssj, gohan fully powered isnt something goten could keep up with at the time. But movie goten could, just like you said. Thats all. Comparing the anime side to the movie side, there always is an advantage on the movie side, like the two boys being even stronger than teen gohan in movie 9 in movie 13. bio broly didnt happen to long after brolys return, what? a year or so? those boys got real strong real quick.
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The kids strength was haxxed as a drawn conclusion, their strength in the movies is beyond their anime selves. Always has been. For the adults and the kids. as well as the villain. Bio broly was a failed experiment. It was only once it turned to sludge did it seem like the kids were even having a problem with him.
So the fact that we see SSjin Goten keeping up with SSjin Teen Gohan makes no nevermind to you?

@Wolfgang Paco - I mean - Wolffanghameha -

Gohan was swinging the sword in base as well. So, no contradiction there.
Yeh but initially Gohan could only use it as a ssj(that right?), and Goku was able to use it a bit in base. Goten should be about equal to the Gohan who could only lift the sword while in ssj, so Base Goku is about as strong as ssj Goten who was able to fight against Bio-Broly.
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Makes no nevermind? i have always been in the opinion that goten at that age could not have been as strong as gohan in ssj, gohan fully powered isnt something goten could keep up with at the time. But movie goten could, just like you said. Thats all. Comparing the anime side to the movie side, there always is an advantage on the movie side, like the two boys being even stronger than teen gohan in movie 9 in movie 13. bio broly didnt happen to long after brolys return, what? a year or so? those boys got real strong real quick.
You say that you have always been of the opinion that Goten could not be as strong as SSjin Gohan, but based off what?We are shown that Goten is close to Gohan's level in the manga, and Trunks is even stronger than Goten. And this isn not contradicted in Movie 13, since at thattime they both had already entered the RoSaT. And movie 11 is not a contradiction either. Evidently Bio-Broly isn't near as strong as the original Broly was. It's not that Goten and Trunks excelled greatly in such a short time.

The only movie I would say Goten's power is contradicted is in Movie 10, where we see Base Gohan take on SSjin Broly and he seems to do better than SSjin Goten and trunks did, when in fact they are on SSjin Teen Gohan's level.

@ Wolffang - Actually, Gohan used SSjin to pull the Zet Sword out of the rock, but afterwards he only needed his base level in order to swing it about initially. But we see that he trains with it while in SSjin also.
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